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Postby SadiesHuman » Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:32 pm

My question is - are you trying to provoke an argument in the intoduction section?

If you breed how you say, then I would think it is ethical. However, I'm a rescuer and feel there is not a huge need for millions of breeders right now. Once a year litters are not all too tragic though.

How do you place your pups after they are of the appropriate age?

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Postby LilacDragon » Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:49 pm

It is great that you breed using DNA profiled championship stock. I think.

The question is - what titles do your dogs have and what certs. do your dogs have? If your dogs haven't been titled and health certified, then their pedigrees don't mean squat.

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Postby alita_gsd » Sat Jul 12, 2008 1:15 pm

I agree with the health certs and knowledge of the background, but in my breed TITLES don't mean squat. I do a better job of evaluating dogs myself, most of the time. No political shenanigans....Nobody can depend on titles. A person has to know the dogs involved and look at the x-rays (which can also be interpreted many ways) and health records herself to do a good breeding. Champion dogs can still have defects that clash with the intended mates.

"Back yard breeders" SHOULD be the best kind, because they aren't puppymills. HOWEVER, that said, most back yard breeders should be re-named "irresponsible dog pimps."
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It is freaking HARD to do a decent breeding!

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Re: true APBT

Postby msvette2u » Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:03 pm

deadgame101 wrote:pups are usually all spoken for before they are even born to friends , family and fellow dogmen. I love APBT's. Staff's are ok but in (my opinion) never come close to an American Pit Bull Terrier. I am not a fan of the Gotti line/ watchdog/ razors edge ect. ect. They are not true apbt as everybody all ready knows. there is only one way to preserve the working apbt. and that is by contest matches. Thats how they came about and thats the only way to keep them in there true form.


Wow, you're off to a great start here!

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Postby Eternity » Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:45 pm

WTF !!! I think I just choked on my pizza....

deadgame101 I hope you are a joke.

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Postby El_EmDubya » Sat Jul 12, 2008 3:00 pm

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Re: true APBT

Postby julie64 » Sat Jul 12, 2008 3:04 pm

msvette2u wrote:
deadgame101 wrote:pups are usually all spoken for before they are even born to friends , family and fellow dogmen. I love APBT's. Staff's are ok but in (my opinion) never come close to an American Pit Bull Terrier. I am not a fan of the Gotti line/ watchdog/ razors edge ect. ect. They are not true apbt as everybody all ready knows. there is only one way to preserve the working apbt. and that is by contest matches. Thats how they came about and thats the only way to keep them in there true form.


Wow, you're off to a great start here!


x2. You don't make it hard for the witchhunt with what you post.

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Re: true APBT

Postby Tahla9999 » Sat Jul 12, 2008 3:24 pm

deadgame101 wrote:pups are usually all spoken for before they are even born to friends , family and fellow dogmen. I love APBT's. Staff's are ok but in (my opinion) never come close to an American Pit Bull Terrier. I am not a fan of the Gotti line/ watchdog/ razors edge ect. ect. They are not true apbt as everybody all ready knows. there is only one way to preserve the working apbt. and that is by contest matches. Thats how they came about and thats the only way to keep them in there true form.


Why won't you get it through your thick head that dog fighting will never be legal again! Get over it. Dog fighting is one of the things that make the public see these dogs as monsters. Talk about their old days as much as you want, what is history is just that, history.

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Postby Ninjakel » Sat Jul 12, 2008 3:37 pm

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Postby Eternity » Sat Jul 12, 2008 4:24 pm

Who said anything about legalization? I have never fought a dog or even watch a dog fight nor do I condone in any illegal activitys. I breed proven game stock.
And as for anyone who thinks that these ''bully" or and thing that came out of the "razors edge" line or any blue line for that matter is a "real" or "true" apbt needs to do there homework. they are staffordshire terriers often crossed with english bulldogs or mastiff type dogs. As we all know apbt's are working dogs. bred for working abilitys and never color or head. staffs are show dogs. bred for color, head i.e conformation over ability. these bully dogs are usually always siting down with there mouths wide open gasping for air because they are not athletic enough stand and have there pictures taken or endure 65 degree plus weather!
which one is the working dog???
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there is only one way to preserve the working apbt. and that is by contest matches.


So how would you describe a "contest match" if you don't fight your dogs???


I'm sorry but I have to disagree with your comment about how show dogs aren't athletic or built for working. You obviuosly don't know what you're talking about and for God's sake you breed!?

I own UKC conformation show dogs and they DO NOT look ANYTHING like that fat blue dog in that last pic! My dogs are toned and athletic. Yes, heavier boned than the puney dog in the first pic, but extremely athletic and just as eager to please.

Plus, everyone knows that people who breed for fighting or "game" bred dogs don't breed for conformation.

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Postby Eternity » Sat Jul 12, 2008 4:26 pm

Oh and forgot to ad, if your dog is not conformationally sound it cannot work well.

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Postby msvette2u » Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:08 pm

deadgame101 wrote:"Yes, heavier boned than the puney dog in the first pic, but extremely athletic and just as eager to please" WHAT?????


That puney dog is the average weight of a male apbt terrier(50lbs). Listen rookie, what bloodlines are you raising? you should do some research of the facts at rio's pit bull kingdom. learn some more about what blood you have under (illigitimate apbt's) and (blue bloodline). and read about your blood and how it came about. if you knew anything about the breed you would see that like the dog you commented on, it hasnt change much from the apbt 100-200 years ago. you show me a picture of a "blue pit" fifty years ago, or even one mention from one of the great dogmen such as Colby, Heinzel, Floyd bouedreax, Tudor ect, ect of these Big blue dogs. in fact some of the original apbt's were in fact around 28-40lbs. The dogs you are raising do not deserve to be even mentioned with the Great American Pit Bull.
I am a Breeder, not a conditioner, and not a dog fighter. I dont have time to condition and breed. All of my dogs produce or came from champion blood. in fact every one of my dogs are either producers of champions or proven game dogs. What you have on the other hand are a product of ignorance. that bigger is better, that blue is rare, that 110lbs pit is rare. Its not rare once youve introduce outside genetics. Do some research, learn more about the breed before you shoot off at the mouth with all your ignorant talk. in fact you you believe all that bull, i have some super rare 40lbs brindle chihuahua dogs for sale for $7000.00! ha! ha! ha!
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Postby El_EmDubya » Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:10 pm

Me too...

I thought Diane lived in Wash? roflmao

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Postby RescueAPBT » Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:12 pm

You never did explain what you meant by 'contest matches' since you claim you don't fight your dogs...

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Postby msvette2u » Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:14 pm

Who the heck are you talking to!?


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