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6 week old puppy

Postby sid the muss » Sat Oct 11, 2008 5:46 pm

i just rescued a 6 week old puppy. i've never had a dog this young. i think 10-12 weeks is the youngest i've ever adopted. just got his 1st set of shots. curious on what u guys would recomend feeding a puppy this young. right now i have a small bag of innova puppy food.<br>
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Postby starrlamia » Sat Oct 11, 2008 6:18 pm

What was the shelter feeding him?
I would stick to what they were feeding if you can just not to upset tummies. By that age they should be eating kibble so puppy food should be fine.
Dear god is he cute!!

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Postby BaltimoreBully » Sat Oct 11, 2008 6:37 pm

I think your fine with the Innova just be sure to feed several times a day since he is so young (like 3-4 times). He is adorable!

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Postby sid the muss » Sat Oct 11, 2008 7:06 pm

actually it was a weird situation. his litter was supposed to be sold for some outrageous price but the owner got arrested and his mom just wanted to find the puppys good homes before she had to drop them off at animal control

i guess my main question is is there anything i should be supplementing being he is so young. thanks

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Postby BrokenAquarian » Sat Oct 11, 2008 7:10 pm

Dogs are already weaned by 6 weeks - so if you have puppy food, that should be good. Supplements aren't necessary. :)

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Postby jlphilli » Sat Oct 11, 2008 7:54 pm

Good food is all about trial and error and what works best for your dog. Innova Puppy is fine, but I usually prefer to stick to simpler foods for puppies so you don't "overload" their system. By simple, I mean foods that don't list several different protein and carb sources. And as mentioned, definitely feed around 3 times a day until 6 months old. If you can get your pup to eat dry food with warm water mixed in, that's even better! Adding water helps aid digestion and helps prevent bloat which is common in deep chested dogs.

Good luck and ADORABLE puppy!

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Postby starrlamia » Sat Oct 11, 2008 10:07 pm

I wouldnt think multiple protein sources would be much of a problem for a puppy. They will need to get used to it but that is the same for any food. I would say though it would be easier to digest a higher protein diet then one with more carbs..
Our pup eats a diet with 3-4 different meats in it (kibble has at least 2 and he gets raw lamb and beef) and it doesnt seem to bother him. Though you are right it is trial and error and you have to do what is best for your pup.

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Postby jlphilli » Sun Oct 12, 2008 10:37 am

starrlamia wrote:I wouldnt think multiple protein sources would be much of a problem for a puppy. They will need to get used to it but that is the same for any food. I would say though it would be easier to digest a higher protein diet then one with more carbs..
Our pup eats a diet with 3-4 different meats in it (kibble has at least 2 and he gets raw lamb and beef) and it doesnt seem to bother him. Though you are right it is trial and error and you have to do what is best for your pup.


Some argue that doing that as a puppy is one of the sources of food allergies for a dog that is already pre-disposed to having them (from breed, genetics, etc). Though there is no proof, I think in any case a multiple protein/carb food is not a good choice as it is difficult to digest.

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Postby starrlamia » Sun Oct 12, 2008 10:46 am

Do you think that would be a development from dogs being domesticated?
Cause Im sure wild dogs wouldnt care about having the pups on one source of protein.. Just curious.

Do you know if dogs are the same as people, in the sense that these allergies can develop at anytime or is it generally around a specific age?

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Postby jlphilli » Sun Oct 12, 2008 12:24 pm

starrlamia wrote:Do you think that would be a development from dogs being domesticated?
Cause Im sure wild dogs wouldnt care about having the pups on one source of protein.. Just curious.

Do you know if dogs are the same as people, in the sense that these allergies can develop at anytime or is it generally around a specific age?

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Yes, I do believe it's a domestication issue :) I think that domestication has caused a change in intestinal bacteria that makes it less able to adapt to a scavenging type diet like in the wild. I also think this is why dogs on "crappy," high-carb foods have a harder time switching to premium foods. And yes, I also do think that domestication has caused a weakened immune system which causes allergies to develop later on in life, similar to humans.

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Postby retro » Sun Oct 12, 2008 12:33 pm

i have found the innova puppy food to work well for the pups i've fed it too. innova makes a good product all the way around, IMO.

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Postby starrlamia » Sun Oct 12, 2008 12:51 pm

jlphilli wrote:
starrlamia wrote:Do you think that would be a development from dogs being domesticated?
Cause Im sure wild dogs wouldnt care about having the pups on one source of protein.. Just curious.

Do you know if dogs are the same as people, in the sense that these allergies can develop at anytime or is it generally around a specific age?

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Yes, I do believe it's a domestication issue :) I think that domestication has caused a change in intestinal bacteria that makes it less able to adapt to a scavenging type diet like in the wild. I also think this is why dogs on "crappy," high-carb foods have a harder time switching to premium foods. And yes, I also do think that domestication has caused a weakened immune system which causes allergies to develop later on in life, similar to humans.


Neat, thanks for your thoughts!
Ive read that dogs are not born with allergies, so do you think that providing a diet with various protein sources would help to develop allergies?
Ive never dealt with allergies before and am trying to learn all I can!

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Postby jlphilli » Sun Oct 12, 2008 5:14 pm

starrlamia wrote:
Neat, thanks for your thoughts!
Ive read that dogs are not born with allergies, so do you think that providing a diet with various protein sources would help to develop allergies?
Ive never dealt with allergies before and am trying to learn all I can!


It is one of those things that is up for debate, as there is no concrete proof or any scientific data suggesting it is true. However, a lot of people (myself included) think that it theoretically makes sense that a "kitchen sink" diet given as a puppy may contribute to food allergies later on in life. Every different protein or carb source has its own nutrient make up, some of which have more of one nutrient than the other. If you give the body a whole bunch of sources like that at once, it can be like a "system overload" type deal that makes it difficult to digest, especially when fed like this for long periods of time.

Now obviously there are some dogs that do well on foods like this, but I think I can say with confidence that the majority of dogs have some type of digestive or skin issue on multiple protein/carb source foods.

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Postby starrlamia » Sun Oct 12, 2008 9:53 pm

jlphilli wrote:
starrlamia wrote:
Neat, thanks for your thoughts!
Ive read that dogs are not born with allergies, so do you think that providing a diet with various protein sources would help to develop allergies?
Ive never dealt with allergies before and am trying to learn all I can!


It is one of those things that is up for debate, as there is no concrete proof or any scientific data suggesting it is true. However, a lot of people (myself included) think that it theoretically makes sense that a "kitchen sink" diet given as a puppy may contribute to food allergies later on in life. Every different protein or carb source has its own nutrient make up, some of which have more of one nutrient than the other. If you give the body a whole bunch of sources like that at once, it can be like a "system overload" type deal that makes it difficult to digest, especially when fed like this for long periods of time.

Now obviously there are some dogs that do well on foods like this, but I think I can say with confidence that the majority of dogs have some type of digestive or skin issue on multiple protein/carb source foods.


Ahh those darn subjects that are debatable! I will have to do some reading on it when I have the chance. BTW I very much enjoy our discussions!
Have you found that allergies are more common in high carb or high protein diets? ... I wonder if there is any data on that...
Interesting stuff thanks again for responding!

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Postby xaverysxmamax » Sun Oct 12, 2008 10:43 pm

Gosh he's a cutie!! :inlove:

Anyway, he's now old enough to eat kibble, so i suggest stay on Innova Puppy. Then as he gets older, you can switch the food. Be sure to stay on good food. :thumbsup:





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