Timberwolf Price Increase?!

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Postby starrlamia » Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:42 pm

Maryellen wrote:high protein foods are just not good for growing puppies due to the higher calcium/phospherous ratio.. other wise its great for adult dogs..


not all high protein foods have higher calcium/phos
Going from what jlphilli told me, 1.5% and under..
Orijen puppy for example, is 42% protein but only a max of 1.6% calcium, phos is max of 1.2%
Nature's Variety instinct Rabbit 32% protein 1.2% calcium

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I personally like high protein diets for puppies, protein helps build muscle ..

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Postby jlphilli » Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:19 pm

starrlamia wrote:
Maryellen wrote:high protein foods are just not good for growing puppies due to the higher calcium/phospherous ratio.. other wise its great for adult dogs..


not all high protein foods have higher calcium/phos
Going from what jlphilli told me, 1.5% and under..
Orijen puppy for example, is 42% protein but only a max of 1.6% calcium, phos is max of 1.2%
Nature's Variety instinct Rabbit 32% protein 1.2% calcium

You do have to look but you can find em :)
I personally like high protein diets for puppies, protein helps build muscle ..


Actually if you look at Orijen puppy, it has a MINIMUM of 1.6% calcium, so it would not be appropriate.

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Postby jlphilli » Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:23 pm

I forgot to add that ratio is also important. You want to aim around a 2:1 calcium/phos ratio. The "ideal" ratio is 1.2 (Ca): 1 (P)

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Postby jlphilli » Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:26 pm

Blah! Sorry for the triple post, I'm trying to type and watch the election crap at the same time.

It also depends on the calorie content of the food. The higher the kcal amount, the higher that actual percentage will be. So typically higher protein/fat foods may say they have "1.2% calcium", but if they have 500 kcal/cup, etc it's actually much more when you look at calcium mg/kg.

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Postby starrlamia » Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:06 pm

jlphilli wrote:
starrlamia wrote:
Maryellen wrote:high protein foods are just not good for growing puppies due to the higher calcium/phospherous ratio.. other wise its great for adult dogs..


not all high protein foods have higher calcium/phos
Going from what jlphilli told me, 1.5% and under..
Orijen puppy for example, is 42% protein but only a max of 1.6% calcium, phos is max of 1.2%
Nature's Variety instinct Rabbit 32% protein 1.2% calcium

You do have to look but you can find em :)
I personally like high protein diets for puppies, protein helps build muscle ..


Actually if you look at Orijen puppy, it has a MINIMUM of 1.6% calcium, so it would not be appropriate.


You're right the max is 1.8%
I should probably be feeding him large breed then.. actually Id have to look at the bag I dont remember, we bought it when we got grendel. The large breed is still 42% protein, but the calcium is 1.4-1.6 and the phos is 1.1-1.3
Would the fact that they eat less on a high protein diet make a difference with the calcium ratio, as they are eating less then say a food that has a lower intake of calcium?
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Postby KJAX5252 » Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:09 pm

Thanks for posting about the price increase.
With two dogs, that type of increase is a bit ridiculous so I went out and bought Wellness Core to start the changeover with.

I hope I made a good choice, I got a bit overwhelmed in the store!

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Postby Pipbull » Wed Nov 05, 2008 5:20 pm

Wow!!! That is some increase! For me, it went up from around $55 to $63


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