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old dog with bad teeth

Postby mydogroxy » Fri Feb 13, 2009 4:38 pm

this is npbr, but i thought i'd ask you guys since you're all pretty in the know. mike and i should be getting a foster early march. she's a 17 year old Dachshund with bad teeth. she eats soft food only and some of her teeth probably should come out. i'm not thrilled with the idea of putting a dog that old under and was wondering if there was anything we could do to help improve the quality of her teeth without a full dental?

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Postby FBODGRL » Fri Feb 13, 2009 5:07 pm

When you say bad....what do you mean?

I had 2 cats get dentals with extractions this year. 1 of the extractions was just roots as the tooth had already fallen out. Prior to the extractions they had stopped eating as much and their gums were red and inflammed. Without lecturing too much my vet said they were probably in more pain than they were showing....made me feel like a horrible owner :crybaby:

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Postby mydogroxy » Fri Feb 13, 2009 5:12 pm

I'm not quite sure yet, as she's currently in North Carolina. The owner says "bad" and that some of them should probably come out. She eats only soft food because that's all she can eat (at least that's what I get from the emails).

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Postby Beowulf » Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:11 pm

IMO it really depends on how bad. I had an old dachshund (12 1/2 at the time) with very bad teeth and the vet cautioned me that if the teeth are left in the mouth in bad condition they can cause death through infection.

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Postby Roxers » Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:28 pm

Beowulf wrote:IMO it really depends on how bad. I had an old dachshund (12 1/2 at the time) with very bad teeth and the vet cautioned me that if the teeth are left in the mouth in bad condition they can cause death through infection.


YES. The teeth are connected to the bloodstream.. so bacteria around the teeth have a pretty direct path to the blood => septicemia. Also, extraction of teeth tends to make the animal MUCH more comfortable, and many can go back to eating hard food, because they don't have those painful teeth in there anymore. Obviously you have to be careful with anesthesia with a dog that old. Definitely have all the bloodwork run and a thorough physical exam and talk with your vet.

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Postby Murfins » Sat Feb 14, 2009 12:07 am

I had ALL teeth removed in a nearly 19yo cat and we saw many specialists (including a cardiologist) before making the decision to go ahead with the surgery - we went to a dental specialist and opted to have the surgery because her teeth were so bad that she was in pain (this was a cat I adopted btw, I did not allow her to get like this), she was fighting infections because of the teeth and the risks were high that it would indeed affect her heart, if it had not already. So in the end, IF she did die on the table the risk was calculated and deemed an acceptable risk.

She came through the surgery AMAZINGLY and showed almost immediate improvement in her overall. She was able to start eating better and FINALLY started gaining weight - she even started to play! I'm talking baby zoomies all by herself around the house. lol

I would do it again in a heartbeat. Her quality of life greatly improved! :)

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Postby msvette2u » Sat Feb 14, 2009 12:13 am

I agree.
I've seen so many dogs now with pus festering at the gumline and throughout the jaw/sinus.
She's probably got oro-nasal fistulas and may need to be on antibiotics for a long time, but you should do it.
Someone should have, ages ago, poor baby :(

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Postby Misskiwi67 » Sat Feb 14, 2009 1:41 am

Anesthesia is worth the risks... the benefits are HUGE.

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Postby buckaroo » Sat Feb 14, 2009 7:20 am

I have an ancient Chihuahua with the same problem. We will probably go ahead with the dental but my vet also suggested "pulse antibiotic" therapy. You do antibiotics for 3 weeks and then off for 1 week to prevent infection from the rotting teeth. Doesn't seem like a good option to me, but he said it's a new thing for dogs that can't go under anaesthesia.

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Postby Misskiwi67 » Sat Feb 14, 2009 12:13 pm

Age is not a disease. Unless there is concurrent heart failure or organ failure, there is no reason an older dog cannot undergo anesthesia.

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Postby msvette2u » Sat Feb 14, 2009 12:22 pm

Misskiwi67 wrote:Age is not a disease. Unless there is concurrent heart failure or organ failure, there is no reason an older dog cannot undergo anesthesia.

So you'd just do the pre-anesthetic blood panel to be sure?

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Postby buckaroo » Sat Feb 14, 2009 12:25 pm

Mine also has CHF.

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Postby mydogroxy » Sat Feb 14, 2009 2:54 pm

The volunteer who has her now has actually arranged for a vet to do a dental on her - fully comped. The vet estimates her to be closer to 13 than 17 and thinks probably every tooth will come out.

Her condition was much worse than we were expecting....very sad.

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Postby Beowulf » Sat Feb 14, 2009 5:10 pm

Poor girl. I'm glad she's being taken care of.


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