How many people do you know consume a well-balanced diet, period?
See my comment to Stormi above.
Rinalia wrote:You seem to believe that vegans are the only ones capable of screwing up their diet when,
No. That's not what I said. I said that most vegans I have known consciously choose a specific diet without researching the nutritional needs of their body and how they can meet them.
Rinalia wrote:in reality, they're the least likely to do so (as evidenced by scientific data and statistical data on obesity, heart disease and some cancers). You are not seeing a large increase in heart-related deaths in the vegan community. You see lower rates of many cancers as well in vegetarians and vegans. So who are the ones affected by obesity, heart disease, certain forms of cancer - it isn't vegans.
Again, all issues directly related to how the diet is raised, prepeared, etc as well as the quantities consumed.
I'm certainly not arguing that health problems are magically eliminated on a vegan diet. I am proposing that your spin on the issue diverts attention from the fact that the most common health problems are not attributed to kale and apples.
Yes. But my argument is that man cannot live on kale and apples alone...
Rinalia wrote:You would do better, in my opinion, to argue that a well-balanced diet is that - well-balanced, no matter whether the dieter consumes meat or chooses to eat plant-based foods.
I thought that was my main point along?
Rinalia wrote: I don't think you or I can draw too many logical conclusions on any diet just from the number of people met on that diet.
I respectfully disagree, given a good sized pool of subjects at least.
Anyhow, I think we've fully hijacked this thread. perhaps we should just let this one go?:peace: