But why oh why don't we really have male roaming dogs here in Norway? We don't even have leash laws except between april and august here, so intact male dogs are let off leash all the time here on walks, in the forest, in the park, let to play with other dogs. Off leash male dogs are normal and common here, and it is not really a huge problem as they are generally under control.
Why aren't dogs dying of prostate infections, pyometra or everything else on a big scale here? Yes, both prostate infectons and pyometra do occure, but it is usually treated easily either by medication or by castrating. (This is why we had to neuter Charlie btw, but that does not mean it is ok to castrate at an early age because he MIGHT have issues in the future. To me that is an ethical question.)
Prostate issues or pyometra are not generally fatal, at least they aren't here in Norway. Deaths are few and far between. These dogs are treated without much drama at all, much like other medical issues a dog might encounter during his life.
Intact males don't really inflict fatal dogbites here either, and stating that percentage the way you did is in my opinion using statistics very poorly. To imply that is was the testicles that made those dogs bite? Seriously dude, that is just reaching. As you (probably) know, there are many
factors that have a role in a fatal dog attack, reproductive status is only one of them. (and my personal stance is that Gatorpit is right when it comes to the owner responsibility of castrated vs. intact dogs in America) A fatal dog attack is the result of a multitude of factors topped off with bad timing. It is a quite complex state of affairs, it is also a very rare occurance and it is therefor very difficult to conclude anything definite about fatal dog bites in general.
The vast majority of male dogs here are intact, and they don't roam, bite, hump, mark, fight. They are not dying because of their reproductive organs, nor are they depressed/desperate/sex-crazed either. They are happy go lucky guys living their lives with testicles and are none the wiser.
How is it that the reality of intact dogs both on an individual and massive scale is not the one that is painted in this thread?
I would love to see studies like Hart & Eckstein being done here in Norway and then compare the numbers. Or even do basic training and give behavioral advice instead of recommending speutering as the first (and sometimes only) advice for simple behavioral "problems". We might see the same improvement.
Misskiwi67 wrote:To me... its a no-brainer. I still don't understand why this is so hotly debated.
Geeze… Because people disagree with you? Because people don't read the statistics tha same way you do (you are leaving out key information when you keep stating the percentages regarding castration and behavior… You are using the Hart & Eckstein study right?)? Because doing surgery on an animal should not be done lightly? Because some feel that tampering with a healthy and happy dog purely for preventative reasons is wrong? Because they know that neutering can have a negative impact on behavior just as easily as it can have a positive impact? Because many people think that testosterone is a natural hormone present in dogs, and that it does not normally have an impact on their wellbeing or quality of life, having based that opinion on having seen a multitude of male intact dogs?
Or simply because people can be educated, informed, intelligent, insightful on the matter and still
come to a different conclusion than you?
I'm sorry to say so, but you strike me a bit arrogant in this subject.