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Re: Questions on Breeding.

Postby WackyJacki » Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:21 pm

jazminesgranny wrote:I think everything that could be said has been said.. I spend a lot of time at our local shelter where 75% of the dogs in there are pits. I wish dogs could talk I would love to hear their stories on how they ended up in the shelter.. I am sure they were all loved when they were 8, 9 10 weeks old.. but what happened after that?? I am sure a precentage of them came from someone with good intentions, I am sure some of them even came from reputable breeders.. after all even good breeders can't guarantee what will happen when the dog leaves them..

I, like others would urge you not to breed your dog, if you have a friend who wants one point them in the direction of petfinder or the local shelter.. save a life..

I have 3 females and 1 male dog.. they are all fixed.. when I had my male fixed I had someone waiting to see the vet ask me why I was fixing him.. I looked at the guy and said because I love him and I am a responsible pet owner..

Good luck with what ever you decide but before you do I would urge you to look on pet finder at all the pits, look at your local shelter and see the faces of the lost.. its heart breaking..

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Well said.

My pit bull is from a byb. Animal control came and took all the pups, as well as the parents, when neighbors complained about the living conditions. I then adopted her from a rescue.

Too many pit bulls are put down every day to justify adding more.

Not to mention pregnancy and labor carry quite a risk to your female. Are you willing to put her through that for your entertainment?

Are you willing to keep and spay/neuter, vaccinate, train, and house every single puppy that doesn't find a good home for its entire life?

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Re: Questions on Breeding.

Postby Amie » Tue Jan 05, 2010 9:30 pm

jazminesgranny wrote: I spend a lot of time at our local shelter where 75% of the dogs in there are pits.


The shelter where I work is 90 - 95% pit bulls at any given time. One of the things I do is escort people back to look at the animals so they can pick one to adopt.

Out of everyone I've escorted back, maybe half tell me they flat out do not want a pit bull. Exactly ONE has ever said she was looking for a pit bull.

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Re: Questions on Breeding.

Postby jazminesgranny » Wed Jan 06, 2010 7:27 pm

Amie wrote:
jazminesgranny wrote: I spend a lot of time at our local shelter where 75% of the dogs in there are pits.


The shelter where I work is 90 - 95% pit bulls at any given time. One of the things I do is escort people back to look at the animals so they can pick one to adopt.

Out of everyone I've escorted back, maybe half tell me they flat out do not want a pit bull. Exactly ONE has ever said she was looking for a pit bull.


Once I get done with my current employment contract and done with school in May I plan to volunteer there more than I do now.. however my husband is worried I will want to bring home some pits.. and with 4 dogs we are at the legal limit.. But its tough they just look so sad and lonely..

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Re: Questions on Breeding.

Postby msvette2u » Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:38 pm

Speaking of shelters, I was just at a shelter about 40 miles from us and I asked about their adoptions, rescue success, etc. (I'll post pics of the dogs we were asked to take in a bit) and they said they have mainly pit bulls right now - I asked if they sent them to rescues, were they successful in finding rescues to take them? They just looked grim and shook their heads.
It was so sad...the surplus is so hard on shelter workers, because they are awesome dogs, just near impossible to get out of the shelters, between lack of experienced homes, BSL and rescues full to the brim :(

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Re: Questions on Breeding.

Postby Amie » Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:59 pm

Vette, that's why my shelter is almost all pit bulls - rescues take all the other dogs. If it's got fur, it's in the shelter for less than a week. If it's furry and small, four days (and that's because by law we have to hold strays for 3 days). Pit bulls are there for months and months, until we run out of room, someone else comes in, and we have to kill really great dogs because someone thought it would be really great to have a puppy just like his dog.

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Re: Questions on Breeding.

Postby msvette2u » Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:28 pm

I know :(
What is the most sad to me is that nobody thinks they are the problem.
Anyone just tossing a male and female together because they like them, or they have nice temperaments, or they are "cool colors", or "this mix would look cool", is part of the problem!

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Re: Questions on Breeding.

Postby Carla » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:17 am

killer. wrote:I dont mean to be rude but im not looking for people to tell me not to breed. Im doing my research before breeding. Obviously Im new to it and interested so im not going to know it all right off the bat. Some questions you just cant find in a book or on the internet. No matter what i read im sure people will have there own opinion with breeding so i wanted to see if someone expirenced with breeding could give me some tips. My breeding desision isnt coming from a forum it is to help me find out a little more on it from the peoples prospective.


Breeding is not something that you decide to learn and then sit down and learn it. It's something you grow into after many,many years in dogs doing everything with them BUT breeding...

Breeding...really BREEDING dogs doesn't stand alone....it has to be learned and absorbed bit by bit over several years of being in dogs, while learning a bunch of other things at the same time...it's impossible to just give you "tips on breeding"...

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Re: Questions on Breeding.

Postby Red Chrome » Thu Jan 07, 2010 10:00 am

The shelter I volunteer at, the big shelter here has a fairly good adoption rate BUT they are always full of APBTs and the likes. I helped get one off the in danger list not too long ago and into a home. Angela, the AC director does all she can to try and keep the dogs there as long as she can. It's really sad for this shelter as they have people that undermine their efforts, a big player that does this is our local no-kill shelter among many more, they also don't have enough budget to speuter dogs before they leave the shelter. Only about 25% of them are speutered before they leave. Angela, the director is a great person(I know her personally as well) and has spoke out against BSL a lot lately with the current BSL scare. She does what she can with what she has. I wish that the cities that contract with AC would give them more money and cut elsewhere so the dogs could be speutered before they leave the place.

Last time I was there, they had so many APBTs. However, a lot of them got adopted or moved to a rescue in Seattle and some got foster homes. There are also no new dogs in danger postings at the moment so that is good. This shelter also is always full of BC's and ChowXs, all types of herding dogs.

My point is that some shelters do the best they can with what they have. Selters are full of APBTs across the US. Definetely not a breed that I'd be breeding as responsible homes are few and far between.

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Re: Questions on Breeding.

Postby jazminesgranny » Thu Jan 07, 2010 12:34 pm

I saw the story recently in Los Angeles where they are having a huge precentage of chi's.. they are now sending some to other states.. and that they are now currently out numbering any breed even pits..

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Re: Questions on Breeding.

Postby WackyJacki » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:02 pm

jazminesgranny wrote:I saw the story recently in Los Angeles where they are having a huge precentage of chi's.. they are now sending some to other states.. and that they are now currently out numbering any breed even pits..


I heard that story too.

The problem with Chis is that people think "ohhh, so little and cute!!!Paris Hilton has one! <vomit>" not realizing that while tiny and cute, they are still dogs, and act as such. Not to mention they can be quite difficult to train!

People are gross.....

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Re: Questions on Breeding.

Postby Patch O' Pits » Thu Jan 07, 2010 4:52 pm

It is sad, but when most people come on asking advice about breeding, as soon as anyone makes a comment they don't like they are quick to run from the forum and say how horrible the forum and members are instead of actually looking at the info that is posted.

As for finding info and getting questions answered, forums are great, but if the dog came from a reputable breeder to start with, that is who should be answering the questions for the person who wants to breed. If the breeder isn't available, and the person has been in the breed long enough to even consider a breeding, they should have made friends with people who could mentor them and or at least answer questions.

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Re: Questions on Breeding.

Postby HersheyBear » Thu Jan 07, 2010 5:01 pm

Amie wrote:
jazminesgranny wrote: I spend a lot of time at our local shelter where 75% of the dogs in there are pits.


The shelter where I work is 90 - 95% pit bulls at any given time. One of the things I do is escort people back to look at the animals so they can pick one to adopt.

Out of everyone I've escorted back, maybe half tell me they flat out do not want a pit bull. Exactly ONE has ever said she was looking for a pit bull.


Same thing happens at the shelter I work at. Some are open minded, but there are more that refuse to adopt a pit bull.

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Re: Questions on Breeding.

Postby KadillacGrrl » Thu Jan 07, 2010 5:50 pm

Carla wrote:

Breeding is not something that you decide to learn and then sit down and learn it. It's something you grow into after many,many years in dogs doing everything with them BUT breeding...

Breeding...really BREEDING dogs doesn't stand alone....it has to be learned and absorbed bit by bit over several years of being in dogs, while learning a bunch of other things at the same time...it's impossible to just give you "tips on breeding"...

Carla


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Re: Questions on Breeding.

Postby Patch O' Pits » Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:28 pm

KadillacGrrl wrote:
Carla wrote:

Breeding is not something that you decide to learn and then sit down and learn it. It's something you grow into after many,many years in dogs doing everything with them BUT breeding...

Breeding...really BREEDING dogs doesn't stand alone....it has to be learned and absorbed bit by bit over several years of being in dogs, while learning a bunch of other things at the same time...it's impossible to just give you "tips on breeding"...

Carla


:goodpost:

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Re: Questions on Breeding.

Postby Rachel&Halo » Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:38 pm

by Patch O' Pits » January 7th, 2010, 5:28 pm
KadillacGrrl wrote:
Carla wrote:
Breeding is not something that you decide to learn and then sit down and learn it. It's something you grow into after many,many years in dogs doing everything with them BUT breeding...

Breeding...really BREEDING dogs doesn't stand alone....it has to be learned and absorbed bit by bit over several years of being in dogs, while learning a bunch of other things at the same time...it's impossible to just give you "tips on breeding"...

Carla

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:peace:


Carla, that was excellent! :thumbsup:


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