The vet almost killed Ivy yesterday.

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Re: The vet almost killed Ivy yesterday.

Postby Misskiwi67 » Wed Jun 16, 2010 11:03 pm

Have you tried feeding her canned food or even meat babyfood???

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Re: The vet almost killed Ivy yesterday.

Postby TRENDKILL » Wed Jun 16, 2010 11:08 pm

Oh yes. We gave her some baby food last night and then I had some canned Innova Senior at home that I brought over. My dad said she licked up 30 cc's of it after he pureed it. She licked it out of his hand, all on her own. We put some karo on her gums too because I didn't know how much sugar the wet food had because it is a low calorie food.

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Re: The vet almost killed Ivy yesterday.

Postby trexgorawrrrrr » Wed Jun 16, 2010 11:28 pm

i really cannot be much of a help for reading medical records, but i'm really pulling for your dad's pup.

such a sad situation :pray

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Re: The vet almost killed Ivy yesterday.

Postby TRENDKILL » Wed Jun 16, 2010 11:44 pm

Ok after checking on her after we put that Karo on her gums, she seems to be doing better. She was much livelier and when my dad whistled she perked her ears and we all agreed that she looked at him. I went in there and she was pawing at her ear. So I know that the little bit of Karo helped her. We just gave her a second dose so we will see. Updates later.

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Re: The vet almost killed Ivy yesterday.

Postby patty » Wed Jun 16, 2010 11:45 pm

I will pray for Ivy :pray

IMO I would give her several days before making the decision to PTS. If she is willing to eat and does not seem to be in pain I would give her all the time she needs. Try and keep her hydrated.

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Re: The vet almost killed Ivy yesterday.

Postby msvette2u » Wed Jun 16, 2010 11:52 pm

I'd refrain from the karo, while it can raise her blood sugar, it can make it crash, too. Just like us, the body's response to sugar is to kick out a gob of insulin to take care of the sugar, then you (and dogs) crash.

It's best to keep giving her as much soft food as she can eat. It will raise and sustain her blood sugar better than karo.

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Re: The vet almost killed Ivy yesterday.

Postby TRENDKILL » Thu Jun 17, 2010 12:30 am

It will but she hasn't been really eating. My dad put some Innova Senior Chicken + Rice in the magic bullet and added some water. I am going to put some Karo on her gums every 3 hours all night until I can swing by the vet and get some high calorie food tomorrow. She had 30 mls of that food earlier but that isn't enough for her body. She is 20 pounds. I am going into the vet I volunteer at (which is an exotics) because my friend is going to give me a can of it. My dad already went to bed so I can't get any money from him tonight to get food tomorrow so this can will hopefully hold us through and we will get some.

UPDATE: We were trying to get her to potty and she isn't strong or coordinated enough (probably both) to hold her legs up but when we got her and I was supporting her back half she stood on her own. I turned loose only for a second so I could make sure I was seeing what I was seeing.


I am going to do my best to stop my dad from euthanizing. Even if it means a wheel chair, and she has recovered. He feels really bad because he faked an emergency at 1120 saying I broke down on the side of the road so he could come home early and we could go get her together and the vet said she arrested at 1120. He is so torn up over this. I have seen my dad cry twice in my whole 21 years of him raising me. He pretty much has been up and down in and out of tears the last 2 days.

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Re: The vet almost killed Ivy yesterday.

Postby Kingsgurl » Thu Jun 17, 2010 12:33 am

From what little information I have, it sounds like she arrested during recovery, which I have to be honest... I've seen twice during ear crop surgeries. Ear crop surgery is NOT a safe procedure. Without calculating drug dosages etc... I honestly think your vet did a good job. They were able to catch the problem, administer CPR and life-saving medications, and your pup is lucky to be alive

I have to agree here. It's one of the reasons I dislike cropping. Pups are under a LONG time for an unneccesary procedure and unfortunately things like this sometimes happen. It IS a risk you take, a risk you asked the Vet to take.

That said, I am praying for Ivy's full recovery.

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Re: The vet almost killed Ivy yesterday.

Postby Kingsgurl » Thu Jun 17, 2010 12:46 am

Damn laptop, hit reply to soon. I was going to mention that I have seen some pretty miraculous recoveries so I wouldn't give up hope just yet. We had a cat seize once when it was boarding with us. (seizures in cats = REALLY bad) At the vet, she continued seizing, despite medication, for quite a while before they managed to get it under control. She was blind and basically lifeless and the vets were recommending euthanasia. The owners were cross country and couldn't get a flight back until 2 days later. They didn't want the cat to go until they could get there (she was not in pain) so back she came to us (nothing further the vets could do for her) We held that cat around the clock, syringing water and pureed food into her (I was DAMNED if she was going to die on MY watch)
By the time the owners got back she was able to eat on her own, though she was still very unco-ordinated and blind. She is TOTALLY normal now, no ill effects whatsoever (though, oddly enough, she no longer bites (she used to be not so friendly even with them and was a biter)) Most miraculous recovery I ever saw.
Don't give up hope, she may just need some time

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Re: The vet almost killed Ivy yesterday.

Postby TRENDKILL » Thu Jun 17, 2010 12:58 am

The reason the vet gave diazepam was because she was thrashing a lot and the vet didn't want her to hurt herself.

I know that these things are big procedures and I honestly didn't think it was such a big procedure. Hindsight is 20/20.

I am not giving up hope on her. These stories are very encouraging and I am even more optimistic now. I honestly think with time she will be okay but my dad is just beating himself up over this just expecting her not to recover. She may not recover fully but I will gladly take a blind dog over a euthanized one. I have high hopes for her. The specialist AND the doc at the e-vet and my friend who is a vet tech does too. Everyone is just saying time. If she is improving by Sunday but not fully recovered I am going to steal her from my dad if I have to. He's leaving on Monday for a month, so he is really worried about her. I will not give up on.

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Re: The vet almost killed Ivy yesterday.

Postby Nickdawg » Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:59 am

thinking good thoughts for Ivy, glad to hear you are not giving up and giving it time....

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Re: The vet almost killed Ivy yesterday.

Postby TRENDKILL » Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:28 am

UPDATE: I tried to syringe feed her some pureed Innova like we did earlier. She took ~50 cc's of it. She licked and swallowed it the whole time. I honestly didn't think she was going to put up with too much of it but she let us syringe feed her 50 cc's.

My dad said she had 30 cc's earlier today. That is better than nothing because I know she isn't capable of chewing right now but I feel like things are going to work out. I am hoping and asking everyone who is religious to pray for her. She is sound asleep I can hear her snoring right now. I am getting up in 3 hours to do it all over again so I will update again.

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Re: The vet almost killed Ivy yesterday.

Postby TRENDKILL » Thu Jun 17, 2010 7:11 am

UPDATE: My dad got up at 430 and she was stirring and she got really excited and was wagging her tail and very lively compared to how she has been and she was trying to move around and stand up. I mixed up some more food and water and Karo for her and she took 40 cc's. I am going to get some Science Diet RX food today. I don't know if it is I/D or A/D. I can't remember off of the top of my head


:teary: this is how I feel running on 10 hours of sleep in 3 days.

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Re: The vet almost killed Ivy yesterday.

Postby msvette2u » Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:33 am

a/d it is made of liver and other nice things.
We fed it to a sickly Chihuahua (the runt) and she survived. It can take the place of the karo...karo's okay for a 'pick me up' but you want to also give the protein.

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Re: The vet almost killed Ivy yesterday.

Postby April » Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:41 am

Ivy I'm rooting for you, you can make it :pray :pray :pray :pray


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