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Re: Hives?

Postby IloveBlu » Fri Jan 07, 2011 3:19 pm

Nobody has any yeast advice??

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Re: Hives?

Postby FBODGRL » Fri Jan 07, 2011 5:25 pm

IloveBlu wrote:It's yeast:(

plus what looks to be, according to vet, an allergic reaction to yeast overgrowth. he said he's never seen so much yeast on a dog :( i feel so, so bad for not taking him sooner. i NEVER wait on anything, but this time i did and i shouldn't have.

poor baby. he's on ketaconzole and i am to give him an allergy bath as much as possible.

just thought of this: if he's allergic to yeast, and yeast lives naturally on his skin, could he be constantly reacting to it on some level?

if so, what can i do about that?



I have never heard of such a thing.

Usually what it is is an allergic reaction then causing a yeast infection (over growth of yeast)

I still believe he is constantly reacting because you have not determined what he is allergic to in general and have not resolved that problem.

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Re: Hives?

Postby AllisonPitbullLvr » Fri Jan 07, 2011 5:44 pm

Skin issues are extremely frustrating. They are never cured, only managed.

Your best bet is to see a Dermatologist now while he is still young. Until then, you're going to be struggling to keep your head above water so to speak with constant skin flare ups.

And as far as I know, yeast is not contagious.

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Re: Hives?

Postby PITtsburgher » Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:30 pm

I think an allergic reaction to yeast would be technically possible. Choco's dermatologist thinks his terrible allergy episode may have been a reaction to his MRSA infection. BUT he is also allergic to other things too! Usually an allergic dog is allergic to more than one thing.

I really think a dermatologist, at a vet school if possible, is what your dog needs. Skin issues can get into some horrible cycles with bacteria and yeast and allergies and it's really not something that a layperson - or even a regular vet, in many cases - can solve without help.

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Re: Hives?

Postby IloveBlu » Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:24 pm

I'll be making a derm appt. this week (closed today) but I'm sure we'll have a bit of a wait. There are only three board-certified vet derms in NJ (that I can see) and my vet recommeneded this one.

Thing is, until then, he still has a rash and he's been biting at it so I know it bothers him. He's been on ketaconazol since Thursday and has had three ket. baths.

Can he be reacting to his food in such a big way after 2.5 months on it?

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Re: Hives?

Postby IloveBlu » Sat Jan 15, 2011 12:09 pm

Well, I got him in on Thursday to the derm.
At that point, the lesions/rash was covering 95% of his body and all he was doing was sleeping and biting at himself.
It turns out he has an extremely severe bacterial infection (severe secondary bacterial folliculitis and focal furunculious?). She said his body was a confluent collection of bacteria.
Cause is unknown right now as we have sent out a sample to see what kind of bacteria it is. But likely secondary to his atopic dermatitis and she believes perhaps partially a result of long-term prednisone use. In fact, she believes prednisone may not be helping him but in fact hurting him.
Also found muscular atrophy above his eyes, 100% due to prednisone use. Partial alopecia too.
He has a re-check in one month and until then this is the plan:
5mg pred. EOD for two weeks, then stop
Probiotics (prostora) to boost his immune system
300 mg Clindamycin pending cytology results, then likely replacing with more specific antibiotic, perhaps for several months
Pyoben (benzyl peroxide) baths 2X per week
Vetericn VF spray daily
Hydroxyzine 50mg, 3 times per day

She said we can talk about allergy testing, etc. after we have 100% cleared him of infection. And for now to not worry about his food. One thing at a time.

Right now he's looking much, much better after one bath, several days of spraying and antis. Just crossing my fingers he continues and we can find appropriate long-term therapy for him that is not prednisone, because she feels he has had an "adverse steroid influence."

:crybaby:

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Re: Hives?

Postby PITtsburgher » Sat Jan 15, 2011 12:12 pm

I'm sorry to hear that he's got so much going on, but I'm glad it looks like things are at least moving in the right direction.
I LOVE the Vetricyn spray - I hope it works as well for Blu as it does for Choco.

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Re: Hives?

Postby IloveBlu » Sat Jan 15, 2011 12:23 pm

Thanks. I'm glad I went and that my puppy is improving. I feel so helpless with him sometimes. My vet called after he got the faxed report from the specialist and admitted he was wrong not to put him on abx after I called him daily, telling him that his skin was continuing to worsen on the ketaconozole he had put him on two Thursdays ago.

the office was flooed with itchy pitties.

I was talking to one that about itchy paws and he suggested this: (after he all but cried about the discontinuation of malaseb pledgets, which i was never able to get)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002LN ... D5GDXRHFQW

considering it for his paws, thighs and under his ear flap (his three big problem areas). but i dont want to bombard him with crap and then not know what's working.

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Re: Hives?

Postby FBODGRL » Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:28 pm

I'm still crying about them discontinuing the chlorehexiderm from DVM. I think the DVM products were what a lot or most vets were recommending and carrying :dunno:


I agree with you and I wouldn't start using the wipes if you are already seeing results. Since you really want to know what works with all that you have tried.

Glad Blu is seeing some relief!

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Re: Hives?

Postby AllisonPitbullLvr » Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:16 pm

Skin issues are SO frustrating but it sounds like going to the derm was definitely the right choice for poor Blu.

Buddy had furunculosis about a year ago. 8 weeks of convenia cleared it up but she isn't really an allergy case like Blu is. Convenia is expensive but it's a great antibiotic for skin for dogs who can't tolerate cephalexin or Clindamycin (Buddy vomits on both of these).

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Re: Hives?

Postby Maven » Sat Jan 15, 2011 10:29 pm

Dexamethazone is a hivey animal's friend!!!

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Re: Hives?

Postby Maven » Sat Jan 15, 2011 10:33 pm

This was our recent ish hive experience. It was ugly
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Re: Hives?

Postby AllisonPitbullLvr » Sun Jan 16, 2011 1:49 am

Maven wrote:This was our recent ish hive experience. It was ugly
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:eek:

I've never seen them so severe! Poor pup!

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Re: Hives?

Postby IloveBlu » Sun Jan 16, 2011 10:30 am

He is definitely improving but they're still there and he's still bothered by them. This week we should know what bacteria it was. Do you think he could have picked up an infection at daycare?

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Re: Hives?

Postby Maven » Sun Jan 16, 2011 1:45 pm

AllisonPibbleLvr wrote:
Maven wrote:This was our recent ish hive experience. It was ugly
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:eek:

I've never seen them so severe! Poor pup!



Ya, it was ugly. I think he was stung


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