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More on Jasper...

Postby Kahlie » Thu Mar 31, 2011 3:22 pm

Jasper finished his 3rd wk of chemo this past Tuesday, "yay"!...Progressing nicely, has been in remission since first treatment...so far so good.

If anyone remembers, last year, around same time, vets confirmed he had torn CCL. He's never had xrays done, just had vets "feel" his knees and (combined with my explanations), they confirmed that was the case. I suspected partial tear when he was about 3, from lameness after hard play, which we then restricted and all was well.
Last year, the surgeon said he won't recommend/do surgery, as he spoke with Jasper's oncologist and they decided it wouldn't be ideal, as he wouldn't have much time left.....well, they were wrong, he had 6 mths extra than they anticipated...and now chemo round 2, so maybe even longer....

Lat night, I'm walking the kids, and a good...30-45 min into the walk, I hear a clicking sound. I spent a good amount of time trying to figure out where that 'hard plastic hitting on hard plastic' sound was coming from - ahh yes....Jasper's left knee. After my mini-panic attack, I thought it may be because during winter, we don't exercise/walk much, and likely his muscles atrophied? (good word? maybe not...).

So now WTF do I do?
I'm looking into hydro therapy, thinking, if I can rebuild muscle, that'll hold his joint?
I'm constantly about half a second from a panic attack at the thought of losing him, so I'm not exactly rational about this...
Any and ALL insights would be greatly appreciated...

Note: I would (/will, if I have to) bring him back to surgeon, but I anticipate he won't be as....helpful, as I'd like, being my experiences with him first round weren't overly useful... (obviously)

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Re: More on Jasper...

Postby Misskiwi67 » Thu Mar 31, 2011 5:55 pm

There are knee braces for dogs that are generally not recommended due to pressure sores etc. long-term, but this would likely be an excellent short-term option for your pup!

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Postby Kahlie » Thu Mar 31, 2011 8:11 pm

Thanks Misskiwi, I just saw them referenced on the torn CCL sticky, lilangel mentioned them... Didn't even realize they existed! Is it something to get through vet? Or suppliers?

Is there anything else left that I can do? Additives to food to boost....anything? I know keeping weight off is a given, he's pretty lean (not muscly though, so ought to try to work on that)...
Could chemo have affected his knee or totally unrelated?

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Re: More on Jasper...

Postby Misskiwi67 » Thu Mar 31, 2011 8:32 pm

Go through a vet with some rehabilitation background... these take specialized fitting to prevent pressure sores.

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Postby Kahlie » Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:51 am

The surgeon/specialist that had previously seen Jazzy (last year rather, when it first occurred) said that he is against knee braces, especially in pit bulls (?) He said he doesn't think Jasper's knee is any worse off (that the clicking isn't significant of much, that perhaps the meniscus is damaged/more calcium built up), that he does surmise it's a complete tear, but as it's now "an old injury", he thinks enough calcium, etc., has built up and it ought to hold in place. (?)

He said hydrotherapy sounds ok... but, that he wouldn't recommend the brace, and has never seen benefits thereof.
And again, wouldn't recommend surgery, given the circumstances...(and the age of the injury...?)

Twice now I'm very disappointed in this "specialist", both occasions he's been very dismissive to Jasper and I.

Do I try to get a second opinion (at same vet clinic, I think there may be another surgeon), or travel somewhere farther to find another specialist? (I don't think Ottawa has another one, outside this clinic)...

Or does what he says, make sense?
Took him a week to call me back...

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Re: More on Jasper...

Postby Misskiwi67 » Fri Apr 08, 2011 12:06 pm

Knee braces are generally not recommended, so I can see why he'd not want to use one. Why the breed matters, I have absolutely no idea.

Yes, some knees stabilize, but if it was truly stable he wouldn't have any lameness or muscle atrophy.

If he's not limping, I'd be OK monitoring it, but I'd be keeping a REALLY close eye on it.

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Postby Kahlie » Fri Apr 08, 2011 4:06 pm

Thanks Misskiwi. :)


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