Costs of raw feeding

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Costs of raw feeding

Postby Ellis » Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:02 pm

Hello!

I'm new to the whole raw feeding thing, but I think I've got the basics down, it's mostly '85% meat and 15% veggies' (quote from moto1320's post 'Raw Food For Beginners' found here: http://www.pitbullforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=9665.) In a perfect world where money was not an issue I'm sure we would all feed our beloved dogs the best raw diets possible. Unfortunately, money does matter, and some things are just too costly. This is what I've always thought feeding raw would be; too costly for someone like me. But now I'm beginning to wonder if that's really true, at least for me. To clarify, I do understand that is is more expensive than feeding a dry kibble, even the most expensive brands. But, like I said for me I'm re-thinking throwing the idea completely out the window and seeing how it could be beneficial not only to my dog, obviously, but for my own diet as well! Buying all the different raw vegetables it takes to keep a dog on a raw diet healthy would force me to use them as well. So I'm not calculating ADDING the cost of a raw diet onto my food bill, but sort of combining it. I think anyone could benefit from eating more fruits and veggies. But back to the main point and title of this post, I'm interested to know how much YOU pay to feed your dog/s raw. For me, it would be a single approx. 50-80lb pit bull terrier I would be feeding. I live in BC, Canada, but any approximate monthly cost from experience I think would help me grasp what I'd be dealing with.

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Re: Costs of raw feeding

Postby starrlamia » Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:26 pm

ummm it really depends, I dont feed my guys veggie, they get 80% muscle meat, 10% bone and 10% organ meat.
We usually buy in bulk, so when the butcher has good sales or from a friend who works at a pork processing plant. I try to pay under 1.50/lb, usually it is around .99/lb.
So.... to calculate.. umm.. grendel and brie (approx 65lbs of dog) combined eat about 1.5 lbs a day. so 1.50-2.25/day over a 30 day period...45-67 a month. (im in ontario so thats canadian) i would look into seeing if there are co-ops or raw feeding groups that can let you know good suppliers, yahoo groups has a ton of good groups (both national and local).

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Re: Costs of raw feeding

Postby Ellis » Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:43 pm

starrlamia wrote:So.... to calculate.. umm.. grendel and brie (approx 65lbs of dog) combined eat about 1.5 lbs a day. so 1.50-2.25/day over a 30 day period...45-67 a month.

I almost actually hope your kidding. And for both of your dogs? Wow... I was planning on spending at least $65 on high quality dry kibble for my future ONE pit bull! Trust me, the penny-pincher I am I'd make sure to find the best deals in fresh farm foods and bulk there is. Like I said, a lot more research would need to be done in exactly the type of raw diet I would go with, but this news is shocking and I think if I get many more estimates like this my idea of getting a dry kibble will be completely out the window! Instead of the other way around!

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Re: Costs of raw feeding

Postby FBODGRL » Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:46 pm

I feed prey model...no fruit and veggies (same % as listed by SM above)

Raw is actually said to be cheaper than kibble, not more expensive :) I have been feeding raw since November and just purchased bulk through a co op for the first time last month. For me in the beginning it was probably a little more expensive than kibble as I was finding out what my guy can/can't tolerate (actually some stuff we are still finding out lol )

Khan is 53lbs and eats 1lb a day give or take. Turkey is one of our man staples. Last month I bought a box of boneless chunks 40 lbs for $25 ( so figure .62 a lb) I also bought some turkey wings in sale for .99 cents a lb...so lets sat 1/2 lb of boneless and 1/2 lb wing+1.62 day X 30 days Roughly $48 dollars a month. Of course that figure isn't spot on, because I feed other things than just that. Some of that being venison which was free, etc. The thing to do is search for stuff on sale and stock up. It is the 21st and I haven't bought any meat since last month and my freezer is pretty stocked up. This week turkey wings are on sale again for .99 a lb...so I'll be returning bottles and using that money to stock up on wings even though I probably have 15lbs of wings right now lol Mostly the bottles need to returned and it's on sale. I have a stand up freezer that is pretty stocked up. I could probably go a few months with what is in it at least.

I encourage you to do a lot of research. Every dog is different and I know we have hit quite a few bumps in the road as I have been learning. By bumps in the road I mean stomach upset, diarrhea and accidents from such while I have been away from the house.

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Re: Costs of raw feeding

Postby Ellis » Thu Apr 21, 2011 12:08 am

Well, I see it's definitely going to be a lot of research, and consistent work until I find the right diet. But wow my mind has been blown. I'm so excited to just be able to know that I can feed my future dog the best diet possible.

A little off-topic-- and I understand this may belong on a different board-- but does anyone recommend a good raw feeding guide book? I know there's probably plenty of resources online, but it would make life easier if I could have one good physical resource to learn from and refer back to when I'm trying different things.

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Postby FBODGRL » Thu Apr 21, 2011 12:30 am

Ellis wrote:Well, I see it's definitely going to be a lot of research, and consistent work until I find the right diet. But wow my mind has been blown. I'm so excited to just be able to know that I can feed my future dog the best diet possible.

A little off-topic-- and I understand this may belong on a different board-- but does anyone recommend a good raw feeding guide book? I know there's probably plenty of resources online, but it would make life easier if I could have one good physical resource to learn from and refer back to when I'm trying different things.


I have read a few different books and to be honest I have found more info online. When I started researching I printed stuff from various online sites. I also copied/pasted certain sections from threads here and other sites onto word to create my own info.

Also turkey is one of my...well Khan's main staples. He is allergic to chicken in kibble and I really haven't tried to much raw chicken with him as of yet. Chicken is quite cheap if you can find it on sale (which I see it on sale all the time) I actually bought a 10 lb bag of chicken quarters for .49 cents a lb. Chicken is generally what is recommended to start as well. So if you can feed chicken as a staple then you will more than likely be able to keep the price down more. If you know people that hunt you can get free stuff during hunting season and feed it all year. I know some people post adds on craigslist and stuff for free meat too.

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Re: Costs of raw feeding

Postby starrlamia » Thu Apr 21, 2011 1:54 am

Ellis wrote:
starrlamia wrote:So.... to calculate.. umm.. grendel and brie (approx 65lbs of dog) combined eat about 1.5 lbs a day. so 1.50-2.25/day over a 30 day period...45-67 a month.

I almost actually hope your kidding. And for both of your dogs? Wow... I was planning on spending at least $65 on high quality dry kibble for my future ONE pit bull! Trust me, the penny-pincher I am I'd make sure to find the best deals in fresh farm foods and bulk there is. Like I said, a lot more research would need to be done in exactly the type of raw diet I would go with, but this news is shocking and I think if I get many more estimates like this my idea of getting a dry kibble will be completely out the window! Instead of the other way around!

Thanks for the feedback!

haha! i know it isnt as bad as it seems it should be!! As long as you grab the deals you are good to go! it does help that i have a little dog (24lbish) and a small bully (42lbish), but i guess it makes them into one big pit bull lol

I feed a lot of chicken and turkey too, it always seems to be what I find onsale, but i try and make up for it by using a variety of animal organs (lotsa beef and pork).

As for books, yah you can find most of the info online but I did read Raw and Natural Nutrition for Dogs by Lew Olsen, which I really liked! http://www.amazon.ca/Raw-Natural-Nutrit ... 709&sr=8-3

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Re: Costs of raw feeding

Postby Ellis » Thu Apr 21, 2011 2:17 am

Thanks for the suggestion! I'm actually shopping around a book store that carries that exact book in stock. I'll most likely stop by and grab myself a copy! I know there's tons of links posted on this forum alone to helpful sites on raw feeding-- and Google is just a click away-- so I won't bother asking about that (although if you do know a great site off the top of your head don't stop yourself from sharing!) I guess I'm just old fashioned and like the convenience of real books vs. the internet.

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Re: Costs of raw feeding

Postby Ellis » Thu Apr 21, 2011 2:34 am

I really have nothing else to say but thank-you!

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Re: Costs of raw feeding

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no problem :thumbsup:

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Re: Costs of raw feeding

Postby mommy2kane » Thu Apr 21, 2011 8:30 am

We go to the DC meat market to buy our chicken quarters and chicken backs in bulk.

40 lbs chicken quarters = $20

40 lbs chicken backs = $8

We usually buy 4 cases of quarters and a case of backs, which totals $88. This generally lasts us at LEAST a full month, and that's feeding 5 dogs. Now, of course, we add in organs (liver/kidney from the grocery store) and beef heart (grocery store). We're starting to look for some more variety, but for now we use chicken as a base and beef heart for red meat.

I consider this CHEAP when I think back to how we were spending $44 per bag of TOTW and it was only lasting 1 - 1.5 weeks. So best case scenario with kibble was $176 per month.

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Re: Costs of raw feeding

Postby kaytenmags » Thu Apr 21, 2011 9:59 am

meat prices in the states are generally cheaper, but if you put in some effort you can keep prices down.
basically, you need time or money. but not necessarily both ;)

i feed prey model raw, and i have been feeding mostly deer/moose/buffalo for the past... 8-10 months? since last hunting season lol
i have 2 apartment size freezers, and one full size freezer full of deer 'bits'. ribs, trim, etc. it took a lot of work last fall, a lot of making phonecalls, meeting people, and driving all over hells half acre, but as a result i haven't had to buy dog food in months. the trim meat isn't exactly pretty, it's got the odd few pine needles and deer hair in it, but my dog certainly doesn't mind, and it was free!

for buying your own store-bought meat, you just need to keep an eye on the fliers. for example, today's the last day of the safeway sale where you can get a turkey for $0.99/lb. fliers change tomorrow, and there may be more deals to be had. check out the fliers online, and when things are cheap, stock up!!
also, hopcotts in pitt meadows (not too far over the bridge from you) does a ground mix for dogs, frozen in 1lb cubes. it's only $1/lb. pigs feet are cheap there too.

raw can definately be done on a budget :)

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Re: Costs of raw feeding

Postby Ellis » Thu Apr 21, 2011 5:15 pm

Hey FBODGRL! Just wanted to say thanks again for the raw feeding tips. I really did go out and buy that book you suggested today. ;) It looks like an interesting read, to say the least. I read one of the links you gave me as well (the first one about weening your dog onto a prey model diet,) and it was really helpful! So do you suggest prey model over a diet with fruits & veggies?

Also mommy2kane and kaytenmags thanks so much for the advice. I'm definitely most interested in investing in a stand-up freezer (I just glanced at craigslist and it seems they go for only around $50 in perfect working condition,) and buying on-sale bulk as much as I can. For a few days hard work it seems like a pretty great pay-off to not have to go out and buy food for the next couple of months! I'm still freaking out over the cost. I guess I'm just used to the expensive fully-cooked meat products you get at over-priced grocery stores, and just assumed feeding the best diet would cost the most.

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Re: Costs of raw feeding

Postby kaytenmags » Thu Apr 21, 2011 9:12 pm

turkeys are on sale until the 23rd at pricemart foods for $0.97/lb
just sayin ;)


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