Orange27 wrote:Premium Edge. They are both made by Diamond but are MUCH better quality foods. And they are very reasonable, as well. I buy Premium Edge at a local feed mill/coop for $25 for a 35# bag.
And Premium Edge Adult formula:
Ingredients
Chicken, chicken meal, whole grain brown rice, cracked pearled barley, white rice, turkey meal, chicken fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols), oatmeal, potatoes, millet, egg product, flaxseed, natural chicken flavor, kelp, carrots, peas, tomatoes, apples, cranberry powder, rosemary extract, parsley flake, potassium chloride, salt, choline chloride, dried chicory root, glucosamine hydrochloride, vitamin E supplement, iron proteinate, zinc proteinate, copper proteinate, ferrous sulfate, zinc sulfate, copper sulfate, potassium iodide, thiamine mononitrate, manganese proteinate, manganous oxide, chondroitin sulfate, ascorbic acid, vitamin A supplement, L-Carnitine, biotin, calcium pantothenate, manganese sulfate, sodium selenite, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), vitamin B12 supplement, menadione sodium bisulfite complex (source of vitamin K activity), riboflavin, vitamin D supplement, folic acid.
As you can see, Premium Edge has no corn, no by products, no brewer's rice or beet pulp (cheap fillers).
Barbponys wrote:For an average sized pit, 50#, you will feed 1.5 cups a day on the Timberwolf, it will last you 2 months. It feeds at a cup per 30#. $25 a month doesn't seem expensive to me? I go through about a bag a month feeding half dry and half raw to 5 dogs.
Nature's Variety feeds at a little faster rate. Depending on the formula it will range range from $40-$50 a bag. It's a 30# bag, it'll last your average dog about a month and a half. Wellness is about the same feeding rate. The price is a little higher.
Canidae is a 40# bag and costs about $36-$40. It feeds at about a cup per 20-25#, it will last your average dog 1.5-2 months.
barbponys wrote:In the Wellness thread there was a question about this food. I did a quick search on it and it didn't read to terribly bad. It's not great, somewhere on par with Royal Canin which is outside my top 10.
I would like to see a little less grain in it. Most of the formulas have rice twice, whole grain brown(which is white rice with the hull still on it) and white. Some of them have rice and corn(lamb formula if I'm not mistaken) and one has potato, rice and corn. For dogs that have allergies, and for pits that's becoming a significant problem, most of these grains should be avoided. Hard to do I know but that's my opinion.
Their "low carb" formula is a bit disturbing to me. 44% protein and only 10% fat is way out of whack. If they could prove that most of that is meat protein maybe I would go for it but they still need to up the fat. If you put more meat than grain in a food the dog will lose weight regardless. Increasing the protein isn't the answer, increasing the MEAT based protein is. I didn't look at the cat food formula cuz I'm sure I would have groaned. Hope this helps some.
barbponys wrote:Excellent. How are you getting calcium to the 6 week old? Bones at this age are tough for them to crush properly. Their puppy teeth can't handle them all that well. Powdered egg shell is a good choice. I would also be giving the little guy goats milk.............
hacknvp.com wrote:barbponys wrote:Excellent. How are you getting calcium to the 6 week old? Bones at this age are tough for them to crush properly. Their puppy teeth can't handle them all that well. Powdered egg shell is a good choice. I would also be giving the little guy goats milk.............
ive been giving her the eggs with the shell crushed up and im not sure where to buy goats milk unless they sell it at the grocery store i havent looked....the little one likes the big meaty bones better the 3 year old she was taking off little bits as far as i could see...i was thinking about crushing them up but wasnt sure the best way to go about it
barbponys wrote:hacknvp.com wrote:barbponys wrote:Excellent. How are you getting calcium to the 6 week old? Bones at this age are tough for them to crush properly. Their puppy teeth can't handle them all that well. Powdered egg shell is a good choice. I would also be giving the little guy goats milk.............
ive been giving her the eggs with the shell crushed up and im not sure where to buy goats milk unless they sell it at the grocery store i havent looked....the little one likes the big meaty bones better the 3 year old she was taking off little bits as far as i could see...i was thinking about crushing them up but wasnt sure the best way to go about it
A lot of grocery stores carry goats milk. Albertson, Safeway, Haggen, QFC. I don't know where you are but those are the big names around here, they all have it.
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