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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 3:55 pm
by Corliss797
Wow, I literally GAGGED while reading this. unbelieveable. and Shep_Cookie, i pay about 42 dollars for a 40lb bag of canidae, delivered to my door. murphy is 62 lbs and only eats 2 cups a day! higher quality kibble means you feed less. it's really not very pricey! the bag lasts about a month and a half or more! believe me, i'm not rich, but i manage to swing it! it's worth it!

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 7:32 pm
by Scooch&Beau
:wow

So is raw really the only safe way to go? We have our foster's on Royal Canin (bulldog formula) because it's the one food they will actually chew before swallowing. I haven't really heard anyone talk about it on the forum, anyone know how good/bad it is? I think we may try the raw diet when we get our own dogs, but with the fosters you never know what their adoptive family will want to do, so I don't want to start them on it.

Geez, I had no idea :yucky:

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 8:35 pm
by pblove
Royal Canin has a lot of corn in it.
I will give them credit for their sales pitch though, it is a heck of an idea to make kibble ,and then name the breeds on the bag like they do. :roll:
I don't balme you with the raw feeding, although you could feed raw and get those fosters in tip top shape (or better shape), as you know they probably were fed terrible food (if and when they were fed) before they got rescued.
That is so nice of you to foster like that, thank you!

found the FDA report/link-UPDATE

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 10:01 pm
by pblove
sorry, but no edit, got the link so you can see the FDA report to verify post:
http://www.fda.gov/cvm/petfoods.htm
go towards bottom of patge, second title up from bottom, it says, "Other Information"
then see FDA report of phenobarbital.......

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 4:45 pm
by Shep_Cookie
pblove wrote:I would get your dog off the Purina One, here is part of an email that was sent to me, I cannot provide all of it, as lost it in a copy/paste/delete mistake and was deleted, but your dog's food is on the list here:
It was in a chart form, but I messed it up , sorry you cannot see the chart.
But you can at least see SOME of the foods that tested positive for pheno.

>>Subject: Dog food brands found to contain pentobarbital residue.
>Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 17:52:42 -0400
>
>FYI: The FDA's Center for Veterinary Medicine (CVM) received reports from
>veterinarians that pentobarbital, an anesthetizing agent used for dogs and
>other animals, seemed to be losing its effectiveness in dogs. Based on
>these reports, CVM officials decided to investigate a plausible theory that
>the dogs were exposed to pentobarbital through dog food, and that this
>exposure was making them less responsive to pentobarbital when it was used
>as a drug. The following are the dog foods that tested positive. Attached
>is the full FDA article. Anyone having difficulty opening the attachment,
>please advise and I will send it in another format.
>
>>
>FDA/Center for Veterinary Medicine
>
>
>Dog food brands found to contain pentobarbital residue (not all
>brands/products were tested).
>
>
>
>The study by the FDA concluded that pentobarbital is indeed capable of
>surviving the rendering process and thus ending up in foods that contain
>euthanized pets. Brands containing pentobarbital residue are:
>
>
>
>Nutro Ken-L-Ration Heinz
>ProPlan
>
>Richfood (McCaffrey's own brand) America's Choice (Superfresh &
>A&P brand)
>
>Kibble Select Ol'Roy Trailblazer
>Dad's Weis Value
>
>Super G Pet Essentials Champ Chunx
>Reward PetGold
>
>


I dunno, maybe I'm slow this morning or something, but I don't see Purina on there.
I'm not even sure where I'd find this "special food" around my town, as we don't have any realy specialty pet food stores. If I was rich I'd buy this good food, but I'm not. Case closed.

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 5:09 pm
by pblove
it is the second food listed:
The study by the FDA concluded that pentobarbital is indeed capable of
>surviving the rendering process and thus ending up in foods that contain
>euthanized pets. Brands containing pentobarbital residue are:
>
>
>
>Nutro Ken-L-Ration Heinz
>ProPlan

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 5:09 pm
by Shep_Cookie
Um, sorry I'm double-posting, but I couldn't find an edit button. o_o; Ignore the post above.

Anyway, lol, I followed some of the stickies and read a little about BARF (lol) and a raw food diet. One of the link states raw food costs less than commercial food diet (though, I don't get this - you'll have to buy food more frequently, thus using more money...) and is somewhat better. Could I just buy a pack of boneless chicken thighs, or do I have to buy a whole carcass? Or something with bones? Supposedly small chicken bones are hazardous to dogs, and I can't always be there to supervise her when she's eating. I sometimes buy her small marrow bones with meat still on them, and she likes those. But I don't know, this whole raw food thing is confusing. >>;;

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 5:19 pm
by pblove
I will let the barf feeders answer your questions.

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 10:10 am
by Thunderstick

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 10:41 am
by pitbulliest
so which dry food is good then? What about timberwolf organics?

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 11:35 am
by pblove

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 5:29 pm
by mtnmansocal
my dog will eat coyote poop so I don't think commercial dog food will hurt 'em.

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 9:50 am
by pblove
mtnmansocal wrote:my dog will eat coyote poop so I don't think commercial dog food will hurt 'em.

but I bet coyote poop is not full of chemicals and corn and wheat and all the other things dogs should not be eating?

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 6:26 am
by esrom21
nice article it helps a lot and gives warning to other pet lovers out their

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 12:54 am
by Stormi
all the more reason why my pit is a veggie :peace: