Raw Instinct from natures variety ?

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Raw Instinct from natures variety ?

Postby Hoss » Sat Oct 29, 2005 4:21 pm

I picked up a bag of natures variety kibble yesterday at my local pet store, and she said there is a new food coming out from them called "Raw Instinct" Grain-Free Nutrition . Just wondering if anyone has any information on it yet?

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Postby SKoth » Sat Oct 29, 2005 4:40 pm

I haven't heard anything about it and their website doesn't say anything. Can you please post some more info like ingredients please.

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Postby Deniselynn » Sat Oct 29, 2005 4:45 pm

I saw that on their website. More information will be provided in November. I believe that is when it is coming out.

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Postby doberkim » Sat Oct 29, 2005 4:46 pm

i believe similar to EVO, its a grain free kibble... thats all i know though! i would love to see more info, including ingredients lists!!

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Postby SKoth » Sat Oct 29, 2005 4:51 pm

This is very exciting! I can't wait to see it!

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Postby abman » Sat Oct 29, 2005 6:45 pm

This is all i saw on the website.


COMING SOON!
Raw Instinct
Grain-Free Nutrition for Dogs
Available in late December
in 4.4, 12.1, and 25.3 lb. sizes

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Postby concreterose » Sat Oct 29, 2005 6:55 pm

I've heard from someone who attended a nutrition seminar that the grain free Nature's Variety will have tapioca in lieu of grains.

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Postby X-girl » Sat Oct 29, 2005 7:13 pm

Wow, that's great! I'm really curious about this. I am a huge fan of this brand already, I bet this product will be great.

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Postby bahamutt99 » Sat Oct 29, 2005 7:28 pm

Never heard of Raw Instinct but I love Nature's Variety.

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Postby abman » Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:56 am

This is the ingredient list that is floating around now. Not sure how accurate it is.

Chicken Meal, Tapioca, Chicken Fat(preserved with Mixed Tocopherols and Citric Acid), Pumpkin Seed, Menhaden Fish Meal, Alfalfa Meal, Montmorillonite Clay, Chicken Liver Flavor, Vitamins (Choline Chloride, Vitamin E Supplement, Ascorbic Acid, Niacin Supplement, Biotin, D-Calcium Pantothenate, Vitamin A Acetate, Riboflavin Supplement, Thiamine Mononitrate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Ethylenediamine Dihydriodide, Menadione Sodium Bisulfate Complex, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Beta Carotene, Folic Acid), Kelp, Minerals (Zinc Proteinate, Iron Proteinate, Zinc Sulfate, Ferrous Sulfate, Manganese Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Manganese Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Sodium Selenite), Chicken Liver, Salt, Inulin, Flaxseed Oil, Dried Enterococcus Faecium Fermentation Product, Dried Lactobacillus Acidophilus Fermentation Product, Apple, Carrot, Pea, Sweet Potato, Cottage Cheese, Chicken Egg, Freeze dried Chicken, Freeze Dried Turkey Meat, Freeze Dried Turkey Liver, Freeze Dried Turkey Hearts, Ground Chicken Bones, Turkey Necks, Broccoli, Romaine Lettuce, Spinach, Salmon Oil, Apple Cider Vinegar, Parsley, Raw Honey, Blueberries, Alfalfa Sprouts, Grapefruit Seed, Persimmons, Duck Eggs, Pheasant Eggs, Quail Eggs, Soy Oil, Rosemary Extract, Sage, Clove

Oh here is the analysis

Crude Protein (min): 42%
Crude Fat (min): 22%
Crude Fiber (max): 3%
Moisture (max): 8%

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Postby barbponys » Mon Nov 07, 2005 11:11 am

abman wrote:This is the ingredient list that is floating around now. Not sure how accurate it is.

Chicken Meal, Tapioca, Chicken Fat(preserved with Mixed Tocopherols and Citric Acid), Pumpkin Seed, Menhaden Fish Meal, Alfalfa Meal, Montmorillonite Clay, Chicken Liver Flavor, Vitamins (Choline Chloride, Vitamin E Supplement, Ascorbic Acid, Niacin Supplement, Biotin, D-Calcium Pantothenate, Vitamin A Acetate, Riboflavin Supplement, Thiamine Mononitrate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Ethylenediamine Dihydriodide, Menadione Sodium Bisulfate Complex, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Beta Carotene, Folic Acid), Kelp, Minerals (Zinc Proteinate, Iron Proteinate, Zinc Sulfate, Ferrous Sulfate, Manganese Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Manganese Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Sodium Selenite), Chicken Liver, Salt, Inulin, Flaxseed Oil, Dried Enterococcus Faecium Fermentation Product, Dried Lactobacillus Acidophilus Fermentation Product, Apple, Carrot, Pea, Sweet Potato, Cottage Cheese, Chicken Egg, Freeze dried Chicken, Freeze Dried Turkey Meat, Freeze Dried Turkey Liver, Freeze Dried Turkey Hearts, Ground Chicken Bones, Turkey Necks, Broccoli, Romaine Lettuce, Spinach, Salmon Oil, Apple Cider Vinegar, Parsley, Raw Honey, Blueberries, Alfalfa Sprouts, Grapefruit Seed, Persimmons, Duck Eggs, Pheasant Eggs, Quail Eggs, Soy Oil, Rosemary Extract, Sage, Clove

Oh here is the analysis

Crude Protein (min): 42%
Crude Fat (min): 22%
Crude Fiber (max): 3%
Moisture (max): 8%


Tapioca is an interesting starch to use as the binder. Why add "liver flavoring" when there's chicken livers in the food? The addition of the vinegar and honey are a concern for dogs that tend to have problems with yeast. LOTS of sugar added with those two ingredients alone with out even mentioning the apple, carrot, pea, sweet potato and tapioca. Soy oil is super high in omega 6, add that to the flax? There's not enough omega 3, even though they have salmon oil. Omega 3 would most definitely have to be supplemented. I've stated my opinion on 42% protein already................ I don't like this new trend in dog and cat foods.....

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Postby abman » Mon Nov 07, 2005 5:12 pm

I think the evo looks much better on paper.

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Postby barbponys » Tue Nov 08, 2005 7:55 pm

I wouldn't agree just on the potato. Trust of the company aside, feeding a dog potato day in and day out is a bad idea.

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Postby abman » Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:11 pm

My dog gets high protein foods once in a while but i couldnt imagine feeding him anything processed that has 42% protein for a long period of time.

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Postby Bustersmama » Fri Feb 03, 2006 9:09 pm

Grain-Free dry dog foods from Nature’s Variety and Solid Gold are Here.
Our mission is to search for, find and present to you only the very best natural products for your pets. We are excited about our most recent additions to the Waggintails.com store…

Traditional dry dog foods contain a higher grain and gluten content than they should. Dogs thrive on a diet where the primary ingredients are meat. Inferior, economy grain based diets create problems that range from allergies to poor coat condition, obesity, poor muscle tone and more. Many people avoid feeding grain free raw diets for a number of reasons that include convenience, cost, storage, and the handling of raw meat. Finally, you can have it all and be able to simply scoop it out of the bag!

Waggin Tails now offers 2 grain and gluten-free diets from Nature’s Variety and Solid Gold.


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