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Fruit?

Postby bahamutt99 » Tue Dec 27, 2005 6:23 pm

How much is too much? Can I give fruit everyday? How will I know if I'm overdoing it?

I've been giving Loki a few slices of apple in her evening meal. She seems to really enjoy it, and I've also got oranges and bananas I'm thinking of sharing with her. I've given her canned pineapple and peaches in the past with no ill effects. Are there any fruits I should be wary of?

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Postby PopeyeSaysHowdy » Tue Dec 27, 2005 6:37 pm

Too much = Loki has the green apple quick steps

Since dogs have such a short intestinal track and digest plant matter worse than we do, the best way to give them fruit and veggies is to juice it. That gets all the nutrients into a digestable form.

Do not give: apple seeds (very toxic, I stay away from pear seeds as well), grapes in all their forms. These two can kill.

Other than that you should be ok.

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Postby bahamutt99 » Tue Dec 27, 2005 6:40 pm

Hehe, no squirts yet. I always core and peel the apples, then give her a few slices of the meat. Don't have a juicer. Do you think it would help if I chopped the apples into smaller pieces?

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Postby aznchipmunk » Tue Dec 27, 2005 6:49 pm

fruit?? this is very interesting....

how do you all feel about oranges/clementines? i've been tempted to give him a slice or two...and carrots...he LOVES carrots ( that crazzy rabbit )

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Postby concreterose » Tue Dec 27, 2005 7:03 pm

I have always given my girls hunks of fruit...they digest them fine :dunno:
I would limit the canned though, there is a lot of added sugar in it.

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Postby Frost » Tue Dec 27, 2005 7:14 pm

how do you get them to like fruit? Van wont touch the stuff. he LOVES nuts though! (any nuts dogs cant have?)

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Postby Tullster » Tue Dec 27, 2005 7:46 pm

Hey for all us newbs, can a moderator/regulator maybe make a sticky with all the foods "most" dogs should NOT have? Seems like some dogs differ from others in what their stomachs will tolerate, but I have heard conflicting info on what is toxic and what is not, and it would be great to have it all in one easy place to find.

Thanks!! :)

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Postby Sarah » Tue Dec 27, 2005 7:58 pm

Whether they get any nutritional value from it or not, most dogs like fruit, so I just give it to them as a treat. Grapes are supposed to be potentially toxic, but I still let my dogs have the occasional grape. They aren't so toxic that one or 2 will kill a 35 pound dog, and I've never given much more than that.

At agility trials, they get dried bananas for their rewards, usually winding up eating a fair amount in a couple day period, and it's never even given them diarrhea. (I started with the bananas because I brought some along to a trial as their low-value treat, expecting the meaty snacks to be what they really wanted, but they turned out to be nearly obsessive over the dried bananas)

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Postby pblove » Tue Dec 27, 2005 8:35 pm

Frost wrote:how do you get them to like fruit? Van wont touch the stuff. he LOVES nuts though! (any nuts dogs cant have?)


NO macadamia nuts for dogs please.

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Postby Frost » Tue Dec 27, 2005 9:03 pm

pblove wrote:
Frost wrote:how do you get them to like fruit? Van wont touch the stuff. he LOVES nuts though! (any nuts dogs cant have?)


NO macadamia nuts for dogs please.


gotcha. our mixed nuts doesnt have any of those. he mostly gets brazil nuts cuz i hate em, and the rare cashew or peanut

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Postby elegy » Tue Dec 27, 2005 9:11 pm

mmm fruit. my dogs love fruit. whatever i'm eating, i share. apples, oranges, clementines, pears, peaches (no pit, obviously), blueberries, whatever. yum yum yum.

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Postby tinybubble68 » Tue Dec 27, 2005 10:08 pm

Our old dog Mitzi Loved to eat grapes, carrots, cashewsand left over veggies from dinner. If she knew there was a watermelon in the fridge she would run to the fridge whenever
someone openned it. She also ate cucumbers, pickles, all sorts of peanuts, beer ( small amounts), and she also helped herself to the neightbours apple trees and eat part of the apple.

Niki or dog now so far likes walnuts, carrots, peas, apples.

Kramer our foster dog doesn't like anything so far except cashews . while we was out the other night he got into the unopened box od Tobberone chocolate and two chocolate letters. He probably ate about 1/2 pound of chocolate that night and we was not happy. We know its not good for them. He has never got into anything ever before. Until now. It was all on the end table. so far no hershey squirts or throwing up. He had an upset belly for a while. But he is fine now. Thank goodness.

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Postby bahamutt99 » Tue Dec 27, 2005 10:14 pm

Check on the canned fruit. I don't give her give her much of that anyway because I figured it would be sugary.

I can't get her to eat most veggies, so I decided to try the fruits. That's the primary reason she gets them now. I had constantly been reading that some veggie matter is good for dogs, but I couldn't get Loki to do more than chew them up. She loves to destroy carrots, but eat them? Not this little rednose.

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Postby Allie » Wed Dec 28, 2005 7:40 am

bahamutt99 wrote:I had constantly been reading that some veggie matter is good for dogs, but I couldn't get Loki to do more than chew them up. She loves to destroy carrots, but eat them? Not this little rednose.


Two of my dogs wouldn't touch veggies--- unless they were processed in a food processor. (the other two will eat anything they can fit in their mouths)
It's easy for us to mix veggie glop up with canned mackrel for an extra special meal.

A question about walnuts-- there are a lot of walnuts in our yard (from the squirrels) and sometimes I catch Sid or Shades eating the shells. Is this bad for them??

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Postby pitmomma » Wed Dec 28, 2005 10:03 am

Items to avoid Reasons to avoid
Alcoholic beverages Can cause intoxication, coma, and death.

Baby food Can contain onion powder, which can be toxic to dogs. (Please see onion below.) Can also result in nutritional deficiencies, if fed in large amounts.

Bones from fish, poultry, or other meat source Can cause obstruction or eslaceration of the digestive system.

Cat food Generally too high in protein and fats.

Chocolate, coffee, tea, and other caffeine Contain caffeine, theobromine, or theophylline, which can be toxic and affect the heart and nervous systems. Cocoa powder and cooking chocolate are the most toxic forms of chocolate. A 10-kilogram dog can be seriously affected if it eats a quarter of a 250gm packet of cocoa powder or half of a 250gm block of cooking chocolate. These forms of chocolate contain ten times more theobromine than milk chocolate. Thus, a chocolate mud cake could be a real health risk for a small dog. Even licking a substantial part of the chocolate icing from a cake can make a dog unwell.


Citrus oil extracts Can cause vomiting.

Fat trimmings Can cause pancreatitis.

Grapes and raisins Contain an unknown toxin, which can damage the kidneys.

Hops Unknown compound causes panting, increased heart rate, elevated temperature, seizures, and death.

Human vitamin supplements containing iron Can damage the lining of the digestive system and be toxic to the other organs including the liver and kidneys.

Large amounts of liver Can cause Vitamin A toxicity, which affects muscles and bones.

Macadamia nuts Contain an unknown toxin, which can affect the digestive and nervous systems and muscle.

Marijuana Can depress the nervous system, cause vomiting, and changes in the heart rate.

Milk and other dairy products Some adult dogs and cats do not have sufficient amounts of the enzyme lactase, which breaks down the lactose in milk. This can result in diarrhea. Lactose-free milk products are available for pets.

Moldy or spoiled food, garbage Can contain multiple toxins causing vomiting and diarrhea and can also affect other organs.

Mushrooms Can contain toxins, which may affect multiple systems in the body, cause shock, and result in death.

Onions and garlic (raw, cooked, or powder) Contain sulfoxides and disulfides, which can damage red blood cells and cause anemia. Cats are more susceptible than dogs. Garlic is less toxic than onions.

Persimmons Seeds can cause intestinal obstruction and enteritis.

Pits from peaches and plums Can cause obstruction of the digestive tract.

Potato, rhubarb, and tomato leaves; potato and tomato stems Contain oxalates, which can affect the digestive, nervous, and urinary systems. This is more of a problem in livestock.

Raw eggs Contain an enzyme called avidin, which decreases the absorption of biotin (a B vitamin). This can lead to skin and hair coat problems. Raw eggs may also contain Salmonella.

Raw fish Can result in a thiamine (a B vitamin) deficiency leading to loss of appetite, seizures, and in severe cases, death. More common if raw fish is fed regularly.

Salt If eaten in large quantities it may lead to electrolyte imbalances.
String Can become trapped in the digestive system; called a "string foreign body."
Sugary foods Can lead to obesity, dental problems, and possibly diabetes mellitus.

Table scraps (in large amounts) Table scraps are not nutritionally balanced. They should never be more than 10% of the diet. Fat should be trimmed from meat; bones should not be fed.

Tobacco Contains nicotine, which affects the digestive and nervous systems. Can result in rapid heart beat, collapse, coma, and death.

Yeast dough Can expand and produce gas in the digestive system, causing pain and possible rupture of the stomach or intestines.


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