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Postby FransterDoo » Thu May 24, 2007 1:14 pm

Franny gets queasy in the car if she doesn't have something in her tummy. It's most obvious when we are getting up early for practice or a tournament.

The problem is that I like my current feeding schedule of prey-model raw once a day. I also don't want to feed her anything big that will take time to digest - she also is not a morning dog and probably would ignore a full meal if I gave it to her.

These 2 items came recommended from some other folks but I wanted to see what y'all have heard about them.


K9 Super Fuel
http://www.cleanrun.com/index.cfm?fusea ... uct_ID=779

Ingredients
K9 Complete Primal Protein: Cooked chicken, Cooked beef, Cooked pork, Zero lactose non-denatured whey isolates, Intact non-denatured zero lactose micellar casein, Intact nondenatured freeze-dried bovine colostrum, K9 Fat Fuel: Stabilized rice bran, Prime beef fat, Canola oil, Stabilized flax, Extra virgin olive oil, MCTs (medium chain triglycerides; preferentially oxidized-burned as muscular energy over storage as fat), K9 Recharge Fuel: Zero sugar predigested glucose polymers, Resistant Starch (low glycemic, slow releasing complex carbohydrate), L-Glutamine peptides, L-Leucine, L-Valine, Resistant starch, L-Arginine, L-Taurine, Phosphatidylserine, L-Carnosine, Citrus bioflavonoids, Hesperidin, Grape skin extract, Beta Carotene, Gingko biloba, Luetin, Lycopene, Vanadyl, Chromium nicotinate, K9 Strength Fuel: Double creatine complex of exogenous, creatine monohydrate/ALA (alpha lipoic acid) and endogenous creatine matrix GAA/G (Glycocyamine/trimethylglycine), L-Arginine Alpha-Ketoglutarate, D-ribose, K9 Endurance Fuel: Anaplurotic & gluconeogenic fuels and other factors L-glycerol, L-Potassium lactate, L-Calcium lactate, L-Sodium citrate, L-Alanine, L-Calcium malate, L-Carnitine, Magnesium orotate, Potassium succinate, K9 Joint Power: D-glucosamine hydrochloride, MSM (Methyl-Sulfony-Methane), Chondroitin sulfate, Unhydrolyzed chicken collagen Type II, Willow extract, Borage oil, Licorice root extract, Acetyl-cysteine, Sodium hylauronate (linear polysaccharide glucuronic acid and N-acetyl glucosamine matrix), K9 Canine Wild Diet Mix: FOS (fructo-oligosacchararides), Cruciferous vegetable mix powder, Freeze dried blueberry powder, whole leaf barley grass extract, Green tea extract, Cranberry fruit powder, Streptococcus faecium, Lactobacillus acidophilus casei, Lactobacillus acidophilus latis, Sccharomyces cerevisiae, Lipase, Amylolytic, Betagulcanase, Hemicellulase, Protease, Galatosidase, K9 Vite Fuel: Vitamins and minerals microencapsulated to ensure higher vitamin bioavailability, reduce oxidation loss, negate offensive taste. Natural calcium from whey isolate, calcium citrate, Potassium chloride, Magnesium oxide, Sea Salt, Potassium iodide, Choline bitartrate, Vitamin E (alpha-tocopherol), Pyridoxine HCL, Inositol, Di-calcium phosphate, Copper gluconate, Zinc oxide, Folic acid, Dimethylprimidinol sulfate (source of vitamin K), Thiamin monohydrate, Calcium lactate, Paba, Sodium selenite, Over 80 trace minerals as naturally occurring in colloidal polysilicates.

Serving size
1 scoop, 26 grams

Guaranteed Analysis
Crude Protein (N x 6.25)...... 30%, 8g min
Crude Fat...... 28%, 7g min
Crude Fiber...... 7% max
Moisture...... 5% max

Calories per serving
128 kcal

Feeding Guidelines
Feed 1/2 to 2 scoops per 25 lbs. of body weight depending on your dog's level of activity or amount of stress. You can feed recommended dosage mixed with your dog's regular meal, or you can mix the recommended dosage of Super Fuel in 1-2 cups water to make a delicious and powerful Super Fuel meal.

Carnivore Cuisine Power Jerky
http://www.cleanrun.com/index.cfm?fusea ... uct_ID=953


Ingredients
Beef Heart, Bison Meat, Elk Meat, Bison Tripe, Bison Fat, Venison, K9 Superfuel K9 Primal Protein: Cooked chicken, Cooked pork, Cooked beef, Zero lactose nondenatured whey isolates, intact nondenatured zero lactose micellar casein, intact nondenatured freeze-dried bovine colostrum, K9 Fat Fuel:Stabilized rice bran, Prime beef fat, Canola oil, Stabilized flax, Extra virgin olive oil, MCTs (medium chain triglycerides; preferentially oxidized-burned as muscular energy over storage as fat), K9 Recharge Fuel: Zero sugar predigested glucose polymers, Resistant Startch (low glycemic, slow releasing complex carbohydrate), L-Glutamine peptides, L-Leucine, L-Valine, Resistant startch, L-Arginine, L-Taurine, Phosphatidylserine, L-Carnosine, Citrus bioflavonoids, Hesperidin, Grape skin extract, Beta Carotene, Gingko biloba, Luetin, Lycopene, Vanadyl, Chromium nicotinate, K9 Strength Fuel: Double creatine complex of exogenous, creatine monohydrate/ALA (alpha lipoic acid) and endogenous creatine matrix GAA/TMG (Glycocyamine/trimethylglycine), L-Arginine Alpha-Ketoglutarate, D-ribose, K9 Endurance Fuel: Anaplurotic & gluconeogenic fuels and other factors L-glycerol, L-Potassium lactate, L-Calcium lactate, L-Sodium citrate, L-Alanine, L-Calcium malate, L-Carnitine, Magnesium orotate, Potassium succinate, K9 Joint Power: D-glucosamine hydrochloride, MSM (Methyl-Sulfony-Methane), Chondroitin sulfate, Unhydrolyzed chicken collagen Type II, Willow extract, Borage oil, Licorice root extract, Acetylcysteinine, Sodium hylauronate (linear polysaccharide glucuronic acid and N-acetyl glucosamine matrix), K9 Wild Diet Mix: FOS (fructo-oligosaccharaides), Cruciferous vegetable mix powder, Freeze dried blueberry powder, whole leaf barley grass extract, Green tea extract, Cranberry fruit powder, Streptococcus faecium, Lactobacillus acidophilus casei, Lactobacillus acidophilus latis, Sccharomyces cerevisiae, Lipase, Amylolytic, Betagulcanase, Hemicellulase, Protease, Galatosidase, K9 Vite Fuel: Vitamins and minerals microencapsulated to ensure higher vitamin bioavailability, reduce oxidation loss, and negate offensive taste. Natural calcium from whey isolate, calcium citrate, Potassium chloride, Magnesium oxide, Sea Salt, Potassium iodide, Choline bitartrate, Vitamin E (alphatocopherol), Pyridoxine HCL, Inositol, Di-calcium phosphate, Copper gluconate, Zinc oxide, Folic acid, Dimethylprimidinol sulfate (source of Vitamin K), Thiamin monhydrate, Calcium lactate, Paba, Sodium selenite, Over 80 trace minerals as naturally occurring in colloidal polysillicates, Dehydrated potatoes

Serving Size
11 grams

Guaranteed Analysis
Crude Protein...... 25% min
Crude Fat...... 28% min
Moisture...... 21% max
Ash...... 2% max


Feeding Guidelines
Feed 1 to 3 patties (11 grams). Reseal tightly after each serving; refrigerate after opening.

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Postby maximusflys » Thu May 24, 2007 3:17 pm

I like this product

POWER CHOW 2

When it comes to carbo-loading and rehydration, the key is balance. High amounts of glycogen replacing glucose polymers along with high tech electrolytes, creatine, glutamine and much more, make Power Chow 2 the ultimate rehydrator and recuperation product. Power Chow 2 keeps your dog going before, during and after work.

Schutzhund, Hunting, Agility, Fly ball, and Rally dogs will all greatly benefit from this product. Power Chow 2 keeps them running cooler.

We have many police K-9 officers that give Power Chow 2 to their partners, especially in the warm summer months. These dogs can be called upon to do extreme work at any time. Feedback from the officers is that Power Chow 2 really helps them while working or training and their recovery time is very quick.
Power Chow 2 was first developed as a lower fat, lower protein alternative to Vertex. Dogs competing in sports like sled racing, weight pulling and any sport that involves hard fast anaerobic exercise will benefit greatly from Power Chow 2 as it is high carbohydrate, low protein, and low fat for rapid glycogen and electrolyte replacement and carboloading.

Power Chow 2 is also great when you want those carbs but you don't want the heavy calories that come with a high fat content. For instance, rehydration between performances and even during hot summer days!Many canine endurance trainers use Vertex for those long hard workouts and then switch over to the Power Chow 2 for the last ten days to two weeks before the competition. Power Chow 2 has all the great nutrients of Vertex - creatine, glutamine, lactic acid buffers, Vitamins C, E and ginseng - but less than half the protein and fat . When combined, the two products produce an amazing result!

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Postby Red Chrome » Thu May 24, 2007 4:58 pm

I like a product made by Canine Performance Nutrition called Vertex. I feed it to Red and it is awesome although we will be looking for something new if we can't order it off the website as no one here carries it!

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Postby maximusflys » Thu May 24, 2007 5:05 pm

Vertex should be combined with power chow 2 and I use both but a couple of weeks before a comp. I switch to power chow 2.

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Postby Sassy Girl » Thu May 24, 2007 5:08 pm

I use the K9 Super Fuel. Have had some good results in stamina and muscle tone. I use the K9 Go Dog during the weekends to ensure rehydration.

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Postby maximusflys » Thu May 24, 2007 5:10 pm

Sassy Girl wrote:I use the K9 Super Fuel. Have had some good results in stamina and muscle tone. I use the K9 Go Dog during the weekends to ensure rehydration.


Has it you helped your leg any Urs?LOL

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Postby Sassy Girl » Thu May 24, 2007 5:57 pm

No- maybe I should change to Vertex...lol

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Postby Sassy Girl » Thu May 24, 2007 5:58 pm

Inside Flyball carries Vertex and Power Chow - check them out at
www.insideflyball.com

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Postby FransterDoo » Thu May 24, 2007 6:01 pm

Sassy Girl wrote:I use the K9 Super Fuel. Have had some good results in stamina and muscle tone. I use the K9 Go Dog during the weekends to ensure rehydration.


Go Dog also came recommended. I want to try it on Franny and Homie our team's rottie this summer when it get hot since both do not do well in the heat.

I think I need to contact these companies and get some samples 'cause none of it's cheap - that's for sure!

B - How to you do this with raw feeding? I could sprinkle it on a pork roast like a BBQ rub maybe? lol

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Postby Sassy Girl » Thu May 24, 2007 6:07 pm

Brian do you have the list of ingredients in Power Chow? I'd to compare the two, same with Vertex? CPN's website doesn't have either listed.

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Postby maximusflys » Thu May 24, 2007 11:08 pm

VERTEX- Pro-gest (TM) blend of predigested and whole proteins from USDA dried whole egg, USDA predigested chicken, USDA beef liver, and or human grade Whey Protein Concentrate, human grade predigested and agglomerated glucose polymers. Lipomix (TM) blend of polyunsaturated vegetable oils, from human grade Canola, Safflower, Cold pressed soy and or Flax oils, (further ingredients are either human or pharmaceutical grade) organically grown flax meal, calcium carbonate, calcium lactate, calcium citrate, creatine monohydrate, high iodine value dried kelp, Mezotrace (TM) brand trace minerals, sodium ascorbate (Vitamin C), d-alpha tocopherol, acetate (Vitamin E), Korean and Siberian Ginseng, Potassium Citrate , Potassium Succinate, Glucosamine sulfate, MSM, Chondroitin sulfate, L-Leucine, L-Isoleucine, L-Valine, Lactobacillus acidophilus, Lactobacillus bulgaricus, Lactobacillus thermophilus, Bifodobacterium bifidum, Lycopene, Grape seed extract, Biotin, Chromium polyricotinate, digestive enzymes, L-glulamine, Naturox (TM) natural antioxidant.

POWER CHOW 2- Zero sugar predigested branching highly soluble glucose polymers, for bloat, free energy and advancedglycogen refueling. Egg albumen, pharmaceutical grade MCTs, L-glutamine, Creatine, Calcium lactate, Calcium Carbonate, Sodium Ascorbate, DL Alpha Tocopherol Acetate, Zinc Proteinate, Biotin, Probiotic blend, Siberian Ginseng, Rosemary Extract, Chromium, Potassium, Digestive enzyme blend

Running Hot' is a term used by sporting dog fanciers that describes a period during extreme exercise in which a dog seems to heat up. The problem is three fold. Normally if a dog is in good physical condition and has been prepared properly for their event, running hot is caused by insufficient amounts of glycogen stored in the muscles and liver which, when used up cause rapid drops in blood sugar levels. The second factor involves rapid carbohydrate metabolism, which in turn causes rapid lactic acid production causing the dog to hit 'the wall.' The third involves excess amounts of nutrients in the dogs bloodstream during exercise, causing mal-absorption of other nutrients, which triggers an automatic reaction within the dogs body to shut down muscle activity.

We developed Power Chow2 to combat all of these problems. Our unique blend of nutrients creates the perfect body chemistry needed for optimum performance without running hot.

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Postby maximusflys » Thu May 24, 2007 11:12 pm

VERTEX-

Protein 24%
Fat 24%
Fiber 4%
Moisture 5%

POWER CHOW 2

Protein 8%
Fat 11%
Fiber 1%
Moisture 5%

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Postby Sassy Girl » Wed Jan 02, 2008 7:02 pm

Just an update here...We now use Vertex, even the borderjack is flipping buffed now!

Every day 2x's a day, Power Chow a few days before comp and throughout comp weekends!

Have heard major issues w/Go Dog making dogs very loose (severe diarhea so we made teh switch) After using K9 Super Fuel and Go Dog for a year, I was pleasantly surprised to see the muscle tone really start to show after a month of use. We are now 4 months into it and all of our dogs are showing such great results!

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Postby jlphilli » Wed Jan 02, 2008 7:26 pm

Sassy Girl wrote:Just an update here...We now use Vertex, even the borderjack is flipping buffed now!

Every day 2x's a day, Power Chow a few days before comp and throughout comp weekends!

Have heard major issues w/Go Dog making dogs very loose (severe diarhea so we made teh switch) After using K9 Super Fuel and Go Dog for a year, I was pleasantly surprised to see the muscle tone really start to show after a month of use. We are now 4 months into it and all of our dogs are showing such great results!


Grats! Do you have any before and after pics? (Just curious...I think that would be cool to see a comparison)

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Postby Sassy Girl » Wed Jan 02, 2008 7:48 pm

I will now that you asked for them. That's on my to do list tonight, I'll see what we can come up with.


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