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Maryellen

Postby Maryellen » Tue Nov 02, 2004 12:36 pm

What about these ingredients?
Bison | Salmon Meal | Brown Rice | Millet | Cracked Pearled Barley | Oatmeal | Rice Bran | Canola Oil | Flaxseed Oil | Garlic | Amaranth | Blueberries | Yucca Schidigera Extract | Taurine | Carotene | Choline Chloride | Vitamin E Supplement | Iron Proteinate | Zinc Proteinate | Copper Proteinate | Manganese Proteinate | Potassium Iodide | Thiamine Mononitrate | Ascorbic Acid | Vitamin A Supplement | Biotin | Calcium Panthothenate | Selenomethionine | Pyridoxine Hydrochloride | Vitamin B12 Supplement | Riboflavin | Vitamin D Supplement | Folic Acid |

is this a good dog food?

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Postby DamnWRX » Tue Nov 02, 2004 12:43 pm

Ah, I'll take a guess? Royal Canin!

Oh, Thanks Pat.............

Maryellen

Postby Maryellen » Tue Nov 02, 2004 12:45 pm

mine is for solid gold wolf king. i just want to make sure that this is one of the best for my dogs.

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Postby barbponys » Tue Nov 02, 2004 1:31 pm

Well........
It's got the same problem actually. The bison is fresh so it's going to be somewhere lower in the ingredient list, like around the rice bran. The rice bran is a grain fraction which, generally, means crap. Good fiber source but useless otherwise. The oatmeal is highly refined as well so it's pure sugar and doesn't offer anything to the dogs nutritionally. Bulk and filler basically. Whole grain is better to see, granted, it's still grain but it isn't garbage leavings from the processing mill. So basically you have 6 grain sources to 1+ meat and two of those grain sources are rice.

The other formula is Diamonds, Premium Edge, chicken adult.

tankers12

Postby tankers12 » Tue Nov 02, 2004 3:16 pm

What about these ingredients Pat: Raw chicken neck w/ organs. :)

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Postby blover27 » Tue Nov 02, 2004 3:20 pm

tankers12 wrote:What about these ingredients Pat: Raw chicken neck w/ organs. :)

i think she would say :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

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Postby bustersmom » Tue Nov 02, 2004 4:12 pm

ok here goes...just bought some food for the dogs called "Chicken Soup for the Dog Lover's Soul" ingredients: chicken, turkey, chicken meal, turkey meal, whole grain brown rice, whole grain white rice, oatmeal, potatoes, cracked pearled barley, millet, chicken fat, duck, salmon, egg product, falxseed, natural chickent falvor, kelp, carrots, peas, apples, dried skim milk, carnberry powder, rosemary extract, parsley flake, and vitamins for the dogs. Crude protien-24.0%, crude fat-14.0%, crude fiber-3.0%, moisture-10.0%, sodium-0.3%, zinc-150 mg/kg minimum, selenium-0.4 mg/kg minimum, vitamin A 15,000 IU/kg minimum, vitamin E 300 IU/kg minimum, omega-6 Fatty Acids 2.2% minimum, omega 3 fatty acids 0.4%. just wanted an opinoin. I am mixing it with the dog food i am giving them right now.

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Canidae

Postby Maryellen » Tue Nov 02, 2004 4:19 pm

ok, which would be better, canidae or solid gold wolf king? here are the canidae ingredients.

Chicken Meal, Turkey Meal, Brown Rice, White Rice, Lamb Meal, Chicken Fat (preserved with Mixed Tocopherols, Citric Acid), Herring Meal, Flax Seed, Sun Cured Alfalfa Meal, Sunflower Oil, Chicken, Lecithin, Monocalcium Phosphate, Potassium Chloride, Choline Chloride, Linoleic Acid, Rosemary Extract, Sage Extract, Yeast Culture, Dried Enterococcus Faecium, Dried Lactobacillus Acidophilus Fermentation Product, Dried Aspergillus Oryzae Fermentation Extract, Dried Bacillus Subtilis Fermentation Extract, Inulin (from Chicory root), Saccharomyces Cerevisiae Fermentation Solubles, Yucca Schidigera Extract Mixed Tocopherols (source of Vitamin E), Zinc Amino Acid Chelate, Manganese Amino Acid Chelate, Iron Amino Acid Chelate, Copper Amino Acid Chelate, Cobalt Amino Acid Chelate, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Ascorbic Acid (source of Vitamin C), Niacin, Thiamine Mononitrate (Vitamin B1), Riboflavin (source of B2), Beta Carotene, Calcium Pantothenate, Pyridoxine hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Calcium Iodate, Folic Acid, D-Biotin, Sodium Selenite, Dried Papaya, Vitamin B12 Supplement.



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Re: Canidae

Postby DamnWRX » Tue Nov 02, 2004 5:13 pm

Pat would say Canidae ;)

Maryellen wrote:ok, which would be better, canidae or solid gold wolf king? here are the canidae ingredients.

Chicken Meal, Turkey Meal, Brown Rice, White Rice, Lamb Meal, Chicken Fat (preserved with Mixed Tocopherols, Citric Acid), Herring Meal, Flax Seed, Sun Cured Alfalfa Meal, Sunflower Oil, Chicken, Lecithin, Monocalcium Phosphate, Potassium Chloride, Choline Chloride, Linoleic Acid, Rosemary Extract, Sage Extract, Yeast Culture, Dried Enterococcus Faecium, Dried Lactobacillus Acidophilus Fermentation Product, Dried Aspergillus Oryzae Fermentation Extract, Dried Bacillus Subtilis Fermentation Extract, Inulin (from Chicory root), Saccharomyces Cerevisiae Fermentation Solubles, Yucca Schidigera Extract Mixed Tocopherols (source of Vitamin E), Zinc Amino Acid Chelate, Manganese Amino Acid Chelate, Iron Amino Acid Chelate, Copper Amino Acid Chelate, Cobalt Amino Acid Chelate, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Ascorbic Acid (source of Vitamin C), Niacin, Thiamine Mononitrate (Vitamin B1), Riboflavin (source of B2), Beta Carotene, Calcium Pantothenate, Pyridoxine hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Calcium Iodate, Folic Acid, D-Biotin, Sodium Selenite, Dried Papaya, Vitamin B12 Supplement.



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Postby Maryellen » Tue Nov 02, 2004 5:54 pm

hey pat, your picture trail is showing up as my picture trail when i click on your website addy- how did that happen.

Canidae, so i guess i should go back to the canidae then?? i have a bag in my storage room that was never opened, its only a couple of months old i never got rid of it when i switched to solid gold. uggh. i want whats best for them so its either barf or canidae then??

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Postby barbponys » Tue Nov 02, 2004 9:01 pm

I'd stick to canidae, it does a good job for the most part.

Funny Dale......... where's the thumbs down emoticon roflmao

Chicken Soup isn't a very good food. It's has lots of different kinds of meat protein in it but not a lot of protein. Don't know if that makes any sense............it's a good start off grocery store foods but it's still a low grade food.
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Postby Maryellen » Tue Nov 02, 2004 9:04 pm

THANKS PAT. i was feeding Canidae, then back in the spring when jesse got allergies bad i thought it was fromthe food as they changed the ingredients around and changed some stuff. so i put them all on the wolf king. i am now going back to the canidae. it lasted longer too when i used it. a 40lb bag lasted longer than the 33lb solid gold bag. now, they will go back to the canidae once this bag is almost gone.

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Postby barbponys » Tue Nov 02, 2004 9:19 pm

Maryellen,
If the allergy symptoms come back you might look into Timberwolf's Ocean Blue. I believe there's a distributor in NJ. It's spendy but I've been happy with the performance and for the most part dogs like it real well. I hope the Canidae works.

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Postby Maryellen » Wed Nov 03, 2004 8:16 am

Thanks Pat, jesse is not allergic to the food she is allergic to everything else. her allergies peak in the spring and fall. i give her benadryl and that helps when it gets bad at peak season.
what are the ingredients in the ocean blue?

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Postby barbponys » Wed Nov 03, 2004 11:08 am

That's great Maryellen. As long as there's no food issues you shouldn't have a problem.

The Ocean Blue is a fish based food. It has some oats in it and millet. No other grains. It doesn't use animal fat, fish and walnut oils are used instead. The dogs that need an allergy diet have done well on it for the most part.


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