Look at Achilles skin please . . .

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Look at Achilles skin please . . .

Postby Liebo11 » Wed Sep 12, 2007 12:06 am

This is honestly killing me lately . . . the shedding I can deal with as I know it doesn't hurt Achilles but he won't stop itching still and he's been to the vet a few times and they always just give him ivomec for mites which i'm sick of because I know its not mites anymore . . . someone please help us

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This is under his front right armpit
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This is his raw skin on one of his back legs Image
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Armpit again . . . Image
More raw skin . . . hard to tell in pics


This is honestly killing me watching him nibble and itch himself to death . . . please help us guys - Thanks

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Postby Libby » Wed Sep 12, 2007 12:10 am

Your vet hasn't considered allergies? My girl looked JUST like that for the last couple weeks. She goes in and gets cortizone shots, which help immediately.

She was scratching herself raw and getting bumps and spots all over. You should ask your vet about allergies.


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Postby Liebo11 » Wed Sep 12, 2007 12:49 am

hmmm . . . interesting . . . a) how much are the cortisone shots generally and b) are they unhealthy for the dogs?

Thanks a lot for your quick response . . . achilles and I appreciate it greatly.

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Postby Libby » Wed Sep 12, 2007 1:00 am

For a cortizone shot, which generally lasts anywhere from one to three months, I pay $22. Which is not bad at all, considering how miserable Gypsy is when she goes without the shot. She needs to get two each year, one in the spring, and then in late august/early september.

I've never heard of a dog having a reaction to the shot. I know that Gypsy never had a negative reaction to it.


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Postby Rumpley » Wed Sep 12, 2007 1:46 am

That could be a food or environmental allergy. Looks like it to me!!

First piece of advice: Get a NEW vet that knows something about bully breeds and/or skin conditions. Telling you it's simply mites is ridiculous. Seriously.

Second piece of advice: A lot of people on here have allergic bullies and can probably give you some stellar FREE advice!!

First question: What are you feeding this dog? General food/cookies etc...

Second question: Do these rashes and bumps get worse when the dog comes in from outside - say an hour or more later?

Third question: Has your dog's skin always been like this, or does it come and go depending on the season?

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Postby Rumpley » Wed Sep 12, 2007 1:48 am

Oh yeah, I'm not sure about the shots but you can also use over the counter antihistamines to give your dog some daily, immediate relief, until you figure out the root of the problem.

Getting the dog to stop scratching is uber important. The scratching can lead to all sorts of secondary skin infections, so then not only are you treating the allergy but also the infections too.

PS: Did your vet ever scrape your dog to determine it had mites?

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Postby Liebo11 » Wed Sep 12, 2007 2:30 am

honestly the rashes don't really get worse or better . . . he gets fed only the best foods . . . merrick, innova, canidae . . . none of the food makes his skin really worse or better . . . it's just the itching that makes it worse . . . i've given him enough benadryl to kill a horse also and that just doesn't work anymore . . . how much are these allergy tests that everyone says is so expensive . . . i'm going to the vet on saturday to show them his skin and if they can't cure him this time with cortizone or whatever I SUGGEST TO THEM (because they clearly can't fix him) then I will have to take him to a skin specialist . . . thanks guys and any further advice would be great.

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Postby FBODGRL » Wed Sep 12, 2007 3:22 am

It's not always a matter of quality of food. It is the ingredients in the food. You could try doing an elimination diet.

I'd do a search for allergies in the health section. You will get all kinds of great advice. I think someone recently had a thread about allergies what different things people try.

I believe I have heard that allergy testing is not 100%

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Postby mydogroxy » Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:04 am

Looks just like Wednesday's skin! You might want to have some allergy tests done to see what's going on. Generally speaking, the environmental allergy tests tend to be considerred more reliable than those for food allergies.

Also, someone else would know more about this (misskiwi?) but cortisone shots, as well as other steriods have to be taken seriously as over medicating can have adverse effects on the body.

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Postby SadiesHuman » Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:11 am

Okay - heres something no one has touched yet.

What about clothing, bedding, harnesses, etc?

Is there anything that is touching him like that or he's rubbing against?

Sadie gets stuff like that when she's been wearing certain harnesses and was out for en extended period of time. Also she gets stuff like that on her legs from doing belly craws on the carpets. Having a white dog thats not very furry I think makes her more sensitive to getting that stuff.

But again, it could also be a food allergy to a single ingredient in his food.

And if its not mites, has flea dirt been touched upon yet?

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Postby MtWhistler » Wed Sep 12, 2007 11:02 am

Does his skin stink where these pink spots are?

My female had that for several years, but hers was because of yeast. I went to the vet a million times and all they would do was prescribe antibiotics and cortisone. Blech! Someone on this forum recommended Kefir (probiotic drink).

Now I make it at home, feed it everyday and no more stinky, itchy yeasty skin.

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Postby Allie » Wed Sep 12, 2007 11:08 am

We did ELISA blood serum testing. This test is good for environmental allergies, but poor for food allergies. The diagnostics cost us around $90. They had to forumlate two different antigen shots for Sid. We give her one-two shots a week. The bottles cost me around $150 every 6 months.
The lab we used is called Bioproducts DVM; they are in Flemington NJ.

About a year (to a year and a half) after starting the shots, Sidney is finally like a normal dog.

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Postby MyBluePit » Wed Sep 12, 2007 11:30 pm

I'm going through this with my 8 1/2 month old bully (blue). Vets here won't do an allergie test until they are 1 so they have gone through each season. She gave her a shot and gave us shampoo and spray and didn't work even a little bit. We have tried 3 different foods which started with Innova Evo RM (contained sunflower oil so stopped that) moved to Natures Variety Chicken (still itched) currently on Natures Variety Salmon and Brown Rice still itching. I am now trying Grizzly Salmon Oil to see if it can improve her skin and maybe help out. But I think we have pinned it that she is allergic to grass :po: she itches and chews the crap out of her feet about half an hour if she walks through freshly cut grass. We now wipe her feet and her stomach off after going out side. It helps a little so I really hope the Salmon oils helps her out a lot.

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Postby Liebo11 » Thu Sep 13, 2007 12:38 am

:sad: Yeh this really is a terrible thing to be happening to such a loving dog like Achilles . . . I feel so bad for him . . . and I don't have that much money to get him all the tests but I will spend everything up to my LAST PENNY to get him better . . . I just want the cheapest most effective method if possible. He's going to the vet on Saturday and until then I'm going to go tomorrow to the pet store and get some fish oil . . . I don't really know any other suggestions until Saturday. Thanks a lot guys I really appreciate all the advice/knowledge of the subject.

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Postby Liebo11 » Thu Sep 13, 2007 12:39 am

also . . . MTwhistler it does smell a little . . . but I can't tell if its a yeast smell or just like a blood smell . . . I really don't know though its hard for me to differentiate.


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