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Postby kristakmj » Sat Dec 08, 2007 7:17 pm

Bahamutt that is what i had read about it was pineapple something about when it comes out it doesnt seem appealing to them , it cant hurt to get a can and try it , i think you only have to add a few pieces a day

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Postby pblove » Sat Dec 08, 2007 7:41 pm

Allie wrote:
EL_EmDubya wrote:
pblove wrote:I had always heard it was a def.
I give B-Complex, so far it has not helped
Now, what about when the dog only eats the poop when it is frozen, doesn't touch it all year long until we get some really cold weather or snow, then eats her own poop?


That makes sense as Vit B5 is used more in cold weather. I'd increase the supplements in the winter to see if that helps. Also, I would not expect an overnight success. Give it a couple of days.

Marie


How to fix this deficiency? What kind of supplements? Are some dogs just prone to it no matter what they're fed?
My Sidda must have it. She doesn't want to eat her own, just the other dogs'.


B-12 is what Marie posted/suggested(per Fransterdoo)
I five B-Complex with C
My dog only eats frozen poop, it has to be rock hard or she doesn't bother with it. Even though I pooper scoop at least once per day, if there is snow on the ground, it gets covered and she finds it!

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Postby Allie » Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:31 pm

Can I just buy B12 supplements or does it need something else in order to be synthesized?
Where do you get the B-complex one you use?
It is ok to feed along with her normal diet?

(sorry for all the questions, and thanks for the help!)

Sidney seems to try to eat poop more in the winter, but she wants it fresh from the other dogs... eeew.

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Postby pblove » Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:46 pm

Allie wrote:Can I just buy B12 supplements or does it need something else in order to be synthesized?
Where do you get the B-complex one you use?
It is ok to feed along with her normal diet?

(sorry for all the questions, and thanks for the help!)

Sidney seems to try to eat poop more in the winter, but she wants it fresh from the other dogs... eeew.

I am sorry Allie but I cannot give you the ansers to some of your questions.
I give my dogs people vitamins that I get from the drug store. I am now using 'Nature's Made" , Vit B-Complex because they were on sale, have no artificial colors or flavors flavors, no preservatives, no chemical solvents, no yeast, starch or gluten.
B vits help convert food into energy and the added Vit C helps boost their immune system and helps the body absorb Iron(I take them too)
I saw a few webinars and those vet recommended giving a med size dog one people Multi Vit per day, along with the B complex, Vit- E and salmon oil.

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Postby chewbecca » Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:56 pm

Allie wrote:Can I just buy B12 supplements or does it need something else in order to be synthesized?
Where do you get the B-complex one you use?
It is ok to feed along with her normal diet?

(sorry for all the questions, and thanks for the help!)

Sidney seems to try to eat poop more in the winter, but she wants it fresh from the other dogs... eeew.


Allie, when I fed raw, I gave Ella these:
http://www.b-naturals.com/product_info.php?products_id=89

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Postby Allie » Sat Dec 08, 2007 9:20 pm

Thanks for the help. :))

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Postby 6pak » Sun Dec 09, 2007 9:36 am

http://www.pet-comfort-products.com/why ... -poop.html

So, you need to know why dogs eat poop? Here are the reasons...
In this article you’ll find out why dogs eat poop. This behavior, known medically as coprophagia, can be frustrating. If you understand it, you’ll have a better chance of fixing the problem. Twenty reasons why dogs eat poop are provided to you.


Why Dogs Eat Poop: Definition of Coprophagia
Coprophagia is the ingestion of poop that is neither accidental nor incidental. It is deliberate and habitual.

Other abnormal canine eating issues include pica (eating of nonfood material), psychogenic water drinking (consuming more water than necessary for regular daily use), anorexia (starvation to the point of extreme, and deadly weight loss), and gorging (serious, unhealthy overeating).

The focus here is on coprophagia and why dogs eat poop. But, you’ll see that dogs can have a variety of other eating problems. Interestingly, you’ll probably also notice that several of these eating problems are also found in humans, such as anorexia and gorging. We’re kind of like our canine friends sometimes, aren’t we.

Below there are 20 reasons listed why dogs eat poop. In addition, at the end of this article you’ll see a summarization of the reasons. Hopefully you will understand exactly why dogs eat poop so that you can solve the problem or take some action to improve the situation.

Why Dogs Eat Poop: 20 Reasons
1. Your dog might be hungry. If your dog doesn't have access to food, he might eat poop.

2. Some dogs will eat poop to clean up an area like a housekeeper. This is most likely if your dog is confined to a crate or kennel, or when he's chained up or otherwise restricted. He's taking care of his space.

3. If your dog likes to carry poop, and then eat it, it could be genetics. Some dogs have instincts to carry stuff in their mouths.

4. Your dog might be eating poop because of parasites or worms. They can suck nutrients out of your dog, driving him to eat poop. It might also leave him extra hungry because of the lack of proper fuel.

5. Your dog might be eating cat poop or other animal poop to get key nutrients and minerals not available in his own food.

6. Some dogs will simply eat poop to pass the time. Dogs will eat poop because they are bored or lonely. It can be a sign of neglect.

7. Your dog might eat poop because he's anxious, nervous or otherwise upset. Stress will drive animals to do odd things.

8. Some dogs will eat poop to hide the evidence. If you punish your dog for pooping, he might eat it to stop you from getting angry.

9. If your dog has puppies, she might eat puppy poop. This is an instinct to hide the poop from predators. Poop is evidence. Getting ride of it keeps her puppies safe.

10. Some young dogs and puppies will eat poop as a novelty. That is, they'll eat poop as an experiment. They don't know better.

11. If your dog watches you pick up poop, he might learn to do the same. This is called allelomimetic behavior. Your dog observes you and learns from you, by putting the poop in his mouth you put poop in a bag.

12. Your dog might see others dogs eating poop. From this, they learn to eat poop too.

13. Many dogs simply like the taste of poop. This obviously doesn't make sense to dog owners but that's irrelevant. Some dog like to eat it and that's that. It's warm, moist, and very much like what your dog was given as a very young puppy.

14. If your dog food lacks key nutrients, he might eat poop. Your dog is trying to get "food" with nutrients any way possible, even from his own poop.

15. Sometimes dog poop seems like dog food. This can happen when dog food is low quality and includes materials that are easily passed and not absorbed by your dog. When the dog poops, it seems to be very much like the food he just consumed!

16. In some cases, dogs will eat poop if they are given too much food. This is especially true if your dog's diet is high in fat.

17. Some dogs will eat poop to gain attention. Many dog owners get very upset when their dog eats poop, which means the dog gets attention. This is a wonderful opportunity for your dog to interact with you, although it is because of negative attention.

18. It is possible that some dogs will eat the poop of other, more dominant dogs. Your dog might be more submissive than other dogs, resulting in strange poop eating behavior. This seems to occur more in households with multiple dogs where dominance and submission is a factor. Obviously this doesn't explain much about dogs eating cat poop or other animal poop.

19. It is possible that your dog wants to eat more than one time per day. If you only feed your dog once per day, and your dog eats poop, it could be an indication they want to eat more frequently.

20. In some cases, your dog will eat poop by accident. Dogs are curious and will try to eat almost anything, including poop. Dogs explore the world through taste and smell, much more than humans.

Summarization: Why Dogs Eat Poop
So, now you have seen 20 reasons why dogs eat poop. It could be a signal for higher quality food, more food, less food, or more frequent meals. It could be related to your dog’s desire for more attention and interaction. Your dog might be eating poop out of instinct whereas in other cases it might a learned behavior from you or by watching other dogs.

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Postby FransterDoo » Sun Dec 09, 2007 10:55 am

Allie wrote:Can I just buy B12 supplements or does it need something else in order to be synthesized?
Where do you get the B-complex one you use?
It is ok to feed along with her normal diet?

(sorry for all the questions, and thanks for the help!)

Sidney seems to try to eat poop more in the winter, but she wants it fresh from the other dogs... eeew.


Hey y'all,

Sorry I was out of the loops - I didn't think the tpoci was something that would interest me!

Pete is our doxie/chi mix and he ate cat poop. So there may be some other things going on here that my solution can't address (like the forzen thing).

What I did was get a bottle of Trader Joe's B-Complex. I used my "dog" grinder to grind the entire bottle and put it in a container. Each day Pete gets about 1/2-3/4 of a teaspoon of it in his breakfast.

If I see him trying to head into the room where the cat boxes are kept - then I'll also add in another 1/4-1/2 in his dinner.

From what I've read, you can't OD on "The Bs" - it will just shed in his poop. B-12 is created (?) in the colon and if the animal is getting enough then some shreds out in the poop. Hence eating poop to get something that's missing from the dog's diet.

Now, concurrently to this I started adding some herbs in the mix but none are specifically for poop eating. So it's not a great study for if it was just the b-12?

Ah, and since he's raw fed - I upped his liver since that's strong in the B vitamins.

I'd give it a few days to see a difference. ANd it may not be a b-12 thing but it's a good first trial.

oh and it must be every day. We skipped a weekend b/c we were at a flyball tournament and I forgot the container. We came home and Pete made a bee-line for the cat boxes.

For the OP, it can come back to what you are feeding.

I know Allie and PBLove are feeding quality foods so it must be something else going on with their dogs but if your dog isn't getting enough nutrition - she may just be trying to "re-eat" her food and get more out of it. Gross, I know.

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Postby pitgrrl » Sun Dec 09, 2007 11:40 am

pblove wrote:My dog only eats frozen poop, it has to be rock hard or she doesn't bother with it. Even though I pooper scoop at least once per day, if there is snow on the ground, it gets covered and she finds it!


lol Basil and Streets had a little frozen poop party a few years ago while we were at my mother's house. They go out back, find the frozen chunks and prance around while it slowly melted in their mouths :yucky:

Luckily, this didn't continue once we came home from our visit, so I'm guessing it was all just good fun to them.

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Postby pblove » Sun Dec 09, 2007 1:03 pm

pitgrrl wrote:
pblove wrote:My dog only eats frozen poop, it has to be rock hard or she doesn't bother with it. Even though I pooper scoop at least once per day, if there is snow on the ground, it gets covered and she finds it!


lol Basil and Streets had a little frozen poop party a few years ago while we were at my mother's house. They go out back, find the frozen chunks and prance around while it slowly melted in their mouths :yucky:

Luckily, this didn't continue once we came home from our visit, so I'm guessing it was all just good fun to them.

I try to make light of it and call them 'poopsicles,' but it really is gross.
In past winters, she was on kibble, so was hoping now that she is on raw she wasn't going to do it this year-WRONG!
We had our first snow storm on Wed and agian on Friday, saw her go out and grab a poop both nights and eat it. (I was standing at the door, read with the flashlight, so I know she grabeed a frozen poop. As I ran out, she ran off with it in her mouth. I went over and checked the spot and sure enough, you could see it has been poop in the snow.
The snow all melted yesterday, she hasn't tried to eat any poop since, it is only when it is snow covered and frozen?????

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Postby matronmedusa » Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:19 am

I'm sure dogs eat poo for many reasons; they are after all, animals, and do all kinds of weird "animal" things. I know wolves in the wild will eat their poop as a way to not "leave a trail" of where they've been. Just a thought.

My male mut follows behind Hera....wherever she pees he has to claim her and pee right over it....what's really gross is when he starts licking up her pee and "tasting" it....I assume he's checking "heat" status?? LOL I don't know, but I tell him "no" just because it's gross.

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Postby cisom » Tue Dec 11, 2007 11:06 am

We have a Weimaraner that we got from a rescue and she has a host of issues, the most disgusting of which are poop eating. We know that she was kept in a small outdoor pen 24 hrs a day and fed and watered once a day.

Personally I think her poop eating and her habit of wolfing her food down and drinking a half gallon of water after she eats are behavioral problems left over from her previous living conditions. We haven't had any luck eliminating these behaviors.

She gets 4 cups of Canidae per day, split into two feedings. She attacks this food and then drinks about a quart of water immediately after she eats her kibble. I rarely see her at her water bowl during the rest of the day.

We tried the MSG sprinkled on her food for a couple of months and it made no difference in her poop eating habits. It did make her smell weird.

I think she is just mentally warped as a result of her previous confinement. I'm going to try the B vitamin complex and see if it makes any difference.

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Postby Pretty Pittie Paws » Thu Jan 24, 2008 8:45 pm

My Theo has the same issue he will eat it no matter frozen or not he will also eat his sisters! TALK ABOUT NASTY oh and we can't forget the goose poop either ugh his is not due to the b 12 it is now imprinted in his brain since he was malnourished. i have heard canned pumpkin works is this true ? and if so how much do i give????? pineapple did nothing for him i think he enjoyed it more actaully ugh

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Postby OrsonDogge » Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:55 pm

why they eat poop....cause to them it is very tasty!!
It is same texture as canned food, very palatable.
It's normal but gross, yes. Just dont let 'em give you any doggie kisses. :yucky:

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Postby Lmporter03 » Fri Jan 25, 2008 9:38 am

the pineapple juice worked for my beagle. just freeze pineapple juice in ice cube trays and add a couple cubes to the water dish.


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