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Postby robc » Sun Feb 24, 2008 11:01 pm

I have been told to post these question here. I am currently using a dog food called nutrisource, my da used it with great results but I have been told its not what it seems. Well what is the best dog food ( I don't care what it costs I want the best) My pup is young and shouldnt of been taken away from the litter so young......wasn't my decision he is 5 wks old.....here is what I currently am doing. I mix the food with hot water and mash it into a paste and then add a little dog formula for added nutrients and put it in the bowl he does ok with this. I thought of using a bottle but he doesnt seem to want it, sometimes he does he, knaws at the nipple. He seems to lick the food up instead of chewing it he leaves the chunks. Tell me how you guys would feed a 5 wweek old pup....thanks rob

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Postby ewwies » Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:26 am

http://www.pitbullforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=23039


i feed nature's variety, my dog does good with it.
just keep doing what your doing... soon you wont need to mash it up.

i've put hot water in the dog food since day one.. and still do... 2 years later. (i just dont mash it up)

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Postby MikeInTacoma » Mon Feb 25, 2008 2:14 am

As far as I can tell, there is no one commercial food that is "best" for all dogs. Some dogs do better with one thing; other dogs do better with something else.

Good luck finding the best for your pup! This may help: http://www.dogfoodproject.com/

Also, your pup is too young to be separated from its mother and littermates; you already know this. Do you have a plan to help give it the socialization it needs for healthy development? Maybe this will help get you started:
http://my.execpc.com/~crzy1ess/49daymyth.htm

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Postby BrokenAquarian » Mon Feb 25, 2008 2:20 am

If he's got teeth, he doesn't need to be nursing - Momma dog would NOT allow puppy teeth on her nipples lol *Talk about painful*

There's a couple lists in this thread of the top dog foods.

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Postby BrokenAquarian » Mon Feb 25, 2008 2:25 am

I didn't see the top 10 list - but I did find this one, it seems to be more of an opinion based list, but it's pretty accurate :)



At the top of my list with 4 stars is raw or BARF. It’s the most appropriate for dogs to eat, easiest for them to digest, and though there are inherent risks, the safest as well.

For dry foods the first at 3 stars would be Timberwolf:
With a very high percentage of meat based protein it is quite expensive. But since the dogs don’t eat as much of it, it really ends up being a good buy. They also, as a general rule, don’t develop a lot of the usual issues they deal with when lower quality foods are fed. Their lowest protein formula starts with 50% meat based protein, their highest has 90% meat based protein. The more meat protein the less grain they use. There is a wide variety of formulas and 3 are true allergy formulas since they don’t use any form of rice, corn, wheat, or soy.

Number two with 2 1/2 stars would be Nature’s Variety:
They use a standard kibble but when it’s cooled from the extrusion process they coat it in dehydrated raw food. They call this “Bio-coating”. It ups the meat percentage quite a bit, though pound for pound it’s still less than the Timberwolf. They have recently added an allergy formula, Venison with pumpkin seed and sweet potato. The dogs do well with it.

Number 3 with 2 1/4 stars would be Merrick:
Merrick also coats the kibble in dehydrated meat. They have added freeze dried vegetables and chunks of dehydrated meat in with the kibble. It has an added component of making gravy when warm water is added with the kibble. It takes a couple of minutes for it to thicken up but the dogs love it.

Number 4 with 1 3/4 stars would be Wellness. The biggest thing with this food that made it stand out is it is baked. It crumbles very easily, and is suppose to be easily digested. They were one of the first to come out with an alternative allergy formula with something other than lamb and rice.

Number 5 with 1 1/2 stars would be Canidae:
This is a decent food, much better than a lot of the big names out there. My main complaint is that they use sunflower oil and, eventually, most dogs will have trouble with it. It’s a good middle of the road food for a lot of people coming off grocery store or big name foods. It shows them the benefits of feeding better quality.

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Postby robc » Mon Feb 25, 2008 3:52 am

wegobad wrote:As far as I can tell, there is no one commercial food that is "best" for all dogs. Some dogs do better with one thing; other dogs do better with something else.

Good luck finding the best for your pup! This may help: http://www.dogfoodproject.com/

Also, your pup is too young to be separated from its mother and littermates; you already know this. Do you have a plan to help give it the socialization it needs for healthy development? Maybe this will help get you started:
http://my.execpc.com/~crzy1ess/49daymyth.htm
My brother in law is a profesional dog trainer for team dog st.louis.....he is going to be on the news in a couple of days here is the website http://www.teamdog.com/About.aspx?localID=2 and the blog is www.TeamDogSTL.BlogSpot.com (casey ray is my brother in law.....yes he will be very socialized.....I will take him everywhere.....exspeacialy all the pets smarts, petcos....parks and any other place he can interact with dogs, people, children.......I am even going to sneak him into a mall where there are all kinds of strange noises he hasn't heard. It is crucial for him to see varieties of noises, other dogs people and anything he may encounter as a adult, my brother in law even knows a guy who has a 5-6 week old litter of pups .....he will also be introduced to these guys.......I am taking the next 3-4 weeks off work to makes sure this happens, my wife works out of our home and she will be able to do this also, thank you for the info you have been most helpful and I appreciate it......rob

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Postby robc » Mon Feb 25, 2008 3:59 am

KeelazMom wrote:If he's got teeth, he doesn't need to be nursing - Momma dog would NOT allow puppy teeth on her nipples lol *Talk about painful*

There's a couple lists in this thread of the top dog foods.
He does have very small teeth.....yeah the only thing he wont do is drink water but he licks his food up, thats the only thing I have been giving out of the bottle....I don't want him dehydrated, it worries me.....I am going to work with him on this......rob

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Postby robc » Mon Feb 25, 2008 4:04 am

KeelazMom wrote:I didn't see the top 10 list - but I did find this one, it seems to be more of an opinion based list, but it's pretty accurate :)



At the top of my list with 4 stars is raw or BARF. It’s the most appropriate for dogs to eat, easiest for them to digest, and though there are inherent risks, the safest as well.

For dry foods the first at 3 stars would be Timberwolf:
With a very high percentage of meat based protein it is quite expensive. But since the dogs don’t eat as much of it, it really ends up being a good buy. They also, as a general rule, don’t develop a lot of the usual issues they deal with when lower quality foods are fed. Their lowest protein formula starts with 50% meat based protein, their highest has 90% meat based protein. The more meat protein the less grain they use. There is a wide variety of formulas and 3 are true allergy formulas since they don’t use any form of rice, corn, wheat, or soy.

Number two with 2 1/2 stars would be Nature’s Variety:
They use a standard kibble but when it’s cooled from the extrusion process they coat it in dehydrated raw food. They call this “Bio-coating”. It ups the meat percentage quite a bit, though pound for pound it’s still less than the Timberwolf. They have recently added an allergy formula, Venison with pumpkin seed and sweet potato. The dogs do well with it.

Number 3 with 2 1/4 stars would be Merrick:
Merrick also coats the kibble in dehydrated meat. They have added freeze dried vegetables and chunks of dehydrated meat in with the kibble. It has an added component of making gravy when warm water is added with the kibble. It takes a couple of minutes for it to thicken up but the dogs love it.

Number 4 with 1 3/4 stars would be Wellness. The biggest thing with this food that made it stand out is it is baked. It crumbles very easily, and is suppose to be easily digested. They were one of the first to come out with an alternative allergy formula with something other than lamb and rice.

Number 5 with 1 1/2 stars would be Canidae:
This is a decent food, much better than a lot of the big names out there. My main complaint is that they use sunflower oil and, eventually, most dogs will have trouble with it. It’s a good middle of the road food for a lot of people coming off grocery store or big name foods. It shows them the benefits of feeding better quality.
I realy like the way timberwolf sounds.....I will also look into Barf, thanks for taking the time to give me this info.......rob

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Postby robc » Mon Feb 25, 2008 4:08 am

KeelazMom wrote:I didn't see the top 10 list - but I did find this one, it seems to be more of an opinion based list, but it's pretty accurate :)



At the top of my list with 4 stars is raw or BARF. It’s the most appropriate for dogs to eat, easiest for them to digest, and though there are inherent risks, the safest as well.

For dry foods the first at 3 stars would be Timberwolf:
With a very high percentage of meat based protein it is quite expensive. But since the dogs don’t eat as much of it, it really ends up being a good buy. They also, as a general rule, don’t develop a lot of the usual issues they deal with when lower quality foods are fed. Their lowest protein formula starts with 50% meat based protein, their highest has 90% meat based protein. The more meat protein the less grain they use. There is a wide variety of formulas and 3 are true allergy formulas since they don’t use any form of rice, corn, wheat, or soy.

Number two with 2 1/2 stars would be Nature’s Variety:
They use a standard kibble but when it’s cooled from the extrusion process they coat it in dehydrated raw food. They call this “Bio-coating”. It ups the meat percentage quite a bit, though pound for pound it’s still less than the Timberwolf. They have recently added an allergy formula, Venison with pumpkin seed and sweet potato. The dogs do well with it.

Number 3 with 2 1/4 stars would be Merrick:
Merrick also coats the kibble in dehydrated meat. They have added freeze dried vegetables and chunks of dehydrated meat in with the kibble. It has an added component of making gravy when warm water is added with the kibble. It takes a couple of minutes for it to thicken up but the dogs love it.

Number 4 with 1 3/4 stars would be Wellness. The biggest thing with this food that made it stand out is it is baked. It crumbles very easily, and is suppose to be easily digested. They were one of the first to come out with an alternative allergy formula with something other than lamb and rice.

Number 5 with 1 1/2 stars would be Canidae:
This is a decent food, much better than a lot of the big names out there. My main complaint is that they use sunflower oil and, eventually, most dogs will have trouble with it. It’s a good middle of the road food for a lot of people coming off grocery store or big name foods. It shows them the benefits of feeding better quality.
I realy like the way timberwolf sounds.....I will also look into Barf, thanks for taking the time to give me this info.......rob

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Postby Savage Destiny » Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:23 am

Quick couple notes about the foods posted- Wellness is no longer baked, it hasn't been for a long time. Also Timberwolf is being sold to the Iams company, so I VERY much expect the quality to go right down the tubes.

Out of the foods listed there, my two favourites would be Merrick and Nature's Variety. Both use quality meat sources, and both have forms of less-cooked vegetables and fruits (dehydrated in NV's Bio-Coat and freeze dried bits in Merrick). I like that a lot because the less cooked veggies are, the more nutrients they retain.

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Postby FransterDoo » Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:23 am

robc wrote:yeah the only thing he wont do is drink water but he licks his food up, thats the only thing I have been giving out of the bottle....I don't want him dehydrated, it worries me.....I am going to work with him on this......rob


you are giving him a lot of water with the moist food so he may not be drinking as much straight water b/c he's not thirsty.


You saw you know someone with a litter? Ask if you can get him over there regularly to meet mama dog and pups his size.

With an underage puppy it's very important to not haul them all around creation. One, they can get tired and cold and then get sick.

Two, he's not vaccinated. He should only go to private places where you really know the people until his puppy vaccines are complete.

I have a 10 week old here and while he's gone to about 3 different houses and puppy class we haven't done anything like PetSmart. You don't know what's out there that can make him sick.

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Postby robc » Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:57 am

FransterDoo wrote:
robc wrote:yeah the only thing he wont do is drink water but he licks his food up, thats the only thing I have been giving out of the bottle....I don't want him dehydrated, it worries me.....I am going to work with him on this......rob


you are giving him a lot of water with the moist food so he may not be drinking as much straight water b/c he's not thirsty.


You saw you know someone with a litter? Ask if you can get him over there regularly to meet mama dog and pups his size.

With an underage puppy it's very important to not haul them all around creation. One, they can get tired and cold and then get sick.

Two, he's not vaccinated. He should only go to private places where you really know the people until his puppy vaccines are complete.

I have a 10 week old here and while he's gone to about 3 different houses and puppy class we haven't done anything like PetSmart. You don't know what's out there that can make him sick.
He will be visiting the litter regulary.....I guess I will hold ff on the petsmart thing......thanks for the info, he is de-wormed........These vets are realy aggravating......it takes to long to schedule a appointment.......so I called 3x to bug them and they are going to see him within 24hrs.....rob

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Postby FransterDoo » Mon Feb 25, 2008 12:14 pm

good deal. Treat this baby like a human newborn!

Also in case you are aware - he'll need 2-3 vax. cycles before he's safe for public consumption ;) So it'll be a couple of months (more like 3) before you can take him out and about.

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Postby BrokenAquarian » Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:35 pm

Savage Destiny wrote:Quick couple notes about the foods posted- Wellness is no longer baked, it hasn't been for a long time. Also Timberwolf is being sold to the Iams company, so I VERY much expect the quality to go right down the tubes.

Out of the foods listed there, my two favourites would be Merrick and Nature's Variety. Both use quality meat sources, and both have forms of less-cooked vegetables and fruits (dehydrated in NV's Bio-Coat and freeze dried bits in Merrick). I like that a lot because the less cooked veggies are, the more nutrients they retain.



Thank you for clarifying this - the post that I copied the info from is a few years old.


I think a moderator should edit the list post to note these changes.

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Postby robc » Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:36 pm

I talked to my brother in law, he says the foods you have listed are great, but he wants you guys to see this food it is called Lifeabundance, his wife is actualy a rep for them....click on the link and then click on the link on the right of the page under products......this food looks amazing.....you guys are totaly right about nutrisource and I thank you for informing me and sending me in the right direction......tell me what you think of this food, I am going to also start a new thread if you want to reply there, again thanks guys......rob

here is the link.... www.healthypetnet.com/teamdogstl


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