New Merrick formulas: "Before Grain"

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New Merrick formulas: "Before Grain"

Postby jlphilli » Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:55 am

(as much as I hate Merrick...)

Just FYI:

New formulas called "Before Grain"
http://www.merrickpetcare.com/store/new_products.php

The ingredients aren't posted on the site, but were emailed as follows:

DOG DRY INGREDIENTS:

CHICKEN:
Crude Protein (Not Less Than) 32.0%
Crude Fat (Not Less Than) 15.0%
Crude Fiber (Not More Than) 3.0%
Moisture (Not More Than) 11.0%

3595 kcal/kg (calculated) – One pound provides 385 kcal of metabolizable energy (calculated). One cup (100 grams) provides 107 calories (Caloric content calculated using Modified Atwater Method).

Chicken Deboned, Chicken Meal, Potato Dehydrated, Turkey Meal, Canola Oil, Sweet Potato Dehydrated, (preserved with mixed tocopherols – a source of Natural Vitamin E and Ascorbic Acid, a source of Vitamin C), Yeast Culture, Natural Dried Chicken Liver, Dicalcium Phosphate, Lysine, Guar Gum, Sea Salt, Alfalfa, Salmon Oil, Choline Chloride, Acai Berry Freeze-Dried, Blueberry Dried, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Dried Venison Broth, Zinc Amino Acid Complex, Chondroitin Sulfate, Glucosamine Hydrochloride, Natural Venison Flavor, Chicory Root, Marigold Extract, Rosemary Extract, Lactobacillus Plantarum, Enterococcus Faecium, Lactobacillus Casei, Lactobacillus Acidophilus, Natural Celery Flavor, Iron Amino Acid Complex, Vitamin E Supplement, Manganese Amino Acid Complex, Natural Color (tumeric), Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Copper Amino Acid Complex, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Vitamin D3, Niacin, Lecithin, Riboflavin Supplement, Biotin, Ethylenediamine Dihydriodide, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Cobalt Amino Acid Complex, Folic Acid, Thiamine Mononitrate, Sodium Selenite.

SALMON:
Crude Protein (Not Less Than) 32.0%
Crude Fat (Not Less Than) 15.0%
Crude Fiber (Not More Than) 3.0%
Moisture (Not More Than) 11.0%

3586 kcal/kg (calculated) – One pound provides 383 kcal of metabolizable energy (calculated). One cup (100 grams) provides 107 calories (Caloric content calculated using Modified Atwater Method).

Salmon Deboned, Chicken Meal, Potato Dehydrated, Turkey Meal, Canola Oil, Sweet Potato Dehydrated, Dried Egg, (preserved with mixed tocopherols – a source of Natural Vitamin E and Ascorbic Acid, a source of Vitamin C), Yeast Culture, Natural Dried Chicken Liver, Dicalcium Phosphate, Lysine, Guar Gum, Sea Salt, Alfalfa, Salmon Oil, Choline Chloride, Acai Berry Freeze Dried, Blueberry Dried, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Dried Venison Broth, Zinc Amino Acid Complex, Chondroitin Sulfate, Glucosamine Hydrochloride, Natural Venison Flavor, Chicory Root, Marigold Extract, Rosemary Extract, Lactobacillus Plantarum, Enterococcus Faecium, Lactobacillus Casei, Lactobacillus Acidophilus, Natural Celery Flavor, Iron Amino Acid Complex, Vitamin E Supplement, Manganese Amino Acid Complex, Natural Color (tumeric), Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Copper Amino Acid Complex, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Vitamin D3, Niacin, Lecithin, Riboflavin Supplement, Biotin, Ethylenediamine Dihydriodide, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Cobalt Amino Acid Complex, Folic Acid, Thiamine Mononitrate, Sodium Selenite.

BUFFALO:
Crude Protein (Not Less Than) 32.0%
Crude Fat (Not Less Than) 15.0%
Crude Fiber (Not More Than) 3.0%
Moisture (Not More Than) 11.0%

3581 kcal/kg (calculated) – One pound provides 383 kcal of metabolizable energy (calculated). One cup (100 grams) provides 107 calories (Caloric content calculated using Modified Atwater Method).

Buffalo Deboned, Chicken Meal, Potato Dehydrated, Turkey Meal, Canola Oil, Sweet Potato Dehydrated, (preserved with mixed tocopherols – a source of Natural Vitamin E and Ascorbic Acid, a source of Vitamin C), Yeast Culture, Natural Dried Chicken Liver, Dicalcium Phosphate, Lysine, Guar Gum, Sea Salt, Alfalfa, Salmon Oil, Choline Chloride, Acai Berry Freeze-Dried, Blueberry Dried, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Dried Venison Broth, Zinc Amino Acid Complex,Chondroitin Sulfate, Glucosamine Hydrochloride, Natural Venison Flavor, Chicory Root, Marigold Extract, Rosemary Extract, Lactobacillus Plantarum, Enterococcus Faecium, Lactobacillus Casei, Lactobacillus Acidophilus, Natural Celery Flavor, Iron Amino Acid Complex, Vitamin E Supplement, Manganese Amino Acid Complex, Natural Color (tumeric), Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Copper Amino Acid Complex, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Vitamin D3, Niacin, Lecithin, Riboflavin Supplement, Biotin, Ethylenediamine Dihydriodide, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Cobalt Amino Acid Complex, Folic Acid, Thiamine Mononitrate, Sodium Selenite.


DOG CANS

CHICKEN:
INGREDIENTS
Chicken, Water For Processing

GUARANTEED ANALYSIS
Crude Protein (Min.) 9.0%
Crude Fat (Min.) 8.0%
Crude Fiber (Max.) 1.2%
Moisture (Max.) 76.0%

CALORIE CONTENT
1466 kcal/kg - A 13.2 oz. can provides 556 kcal of metabolizable energy, calculated value.


SALMON:
INGREDIENTS
Salmon, Water For Processing

GUARANTEED ANALYSIS
Crude Protein (Min.) 10.0%
Crude Fat (Min.) 9.0%
Crude Fiber (Max.) 1.2%
Moisture (Max.) 78.0%

CALORIE CONTENT
1490 kcal/kg - A 13.2 oz. can provides 565 kcal of metabolizable energy, calculated value.


BUFFALO:
INGREDIENTS
Buffalo, Water For Processing

GUARANTEED ANALYSIS
Crude Protein (Min.) 6.0%
Crude Fat (Min.) 6.0%
Crude Fiber (Max.) 1.2%
Moisture (Max.) 76.0%

CALORIE CONTENT
1276 kcal/kg - A 13.2 oz. can provides 484 kcal of metabolizable energy, calculated value.


TURKEY:
INGREDIENTS
Turkey, Water For Processing

GUARANTEED ANALYSIS
Crude Protein (Min.) 10.0%
Crude Fat (Min.) 9.0%
Crude Fiber (Max.) 1.2%
Moisture (Max.) 76.0%

CALORIE CONTENT
1502 kcal/kg - A 13.2 oz. can provides 569 kcal of metabolizable energy, calculated value.


TRIPE:
INGREDIENTS
Tripe, Water For Processing

GUARANTEED ANALYSIS
Crude Protein (Min.) 8.0%
Crude Fat (Min.) 9.0%
Crude Fiber (Max.) 2.0%
Moisture (Max.) 80.0%

CALORIE CONTENT
1147 kcal/kg - A 13.2 oz. can provides 432 kcal of metabolizable energy, calculated value.


BEEF:
INGREDIENTS
Beef, Water For Processing

GUARANTEED ANALYSIS
Crude Protein (Min.) 9.0%
Crude Fat (Min.) 7.0%
Crude Fiber (Max.) 1.2%
Moisture (Max.) 76.0%

CALORIE CONTENT
1317 kcal/kg - A 13.2 oz. can provides 499 kcal of metabolizable energy, calculated value.

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Postby concreterose » Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:03 am

Why do you hate Merrick?

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Postby pblove » Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:16 am

x's 2

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Postby sarallyn » Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:08 am

x 3... I could never be more happy with Merrick.

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Postby Savage Destiny » Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:20 am

x3!

Merrick is one of only two kibbles Riddle can have even as a treat (she normally eats raw) without getting runnybutt and having her hair fall out!

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Postby chewbecca » Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:28 am

I'm assuming there is a lot of dislike for Merrick due to their continuous quality control issues. People finding pieces of loose metal in their cans of dog food, or pieces of loose plastic chunks. I've heard of it happening on at least 4 separate occasions.

you know, I wish all these companies coming out with grain-free formulas would come out with a single protein source grain-free formula, like a fish formula. I know there are some out there with fish only grain-free formulas, but I wish a companies such as Evanger's and Natura would do that.

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Postby jlphilli » Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:01 pm

chewbecca wrote:I'm assuming there is a lot of dislike for Merrick due to their continuous quality control issues. People finding pieces of loose metal in their cans of dog food, or pieces of loose plastic chunks. I've heard of it happening on at least 4 separate occasions.


Yep, that would be why. :)

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Postby concreterose » Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:31 pm

oohhhhh, gotcha :thumbsup:
I've never tried it, but heard good things about it until now.

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Postby lipshipsattitude » Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:14 pm

That whole scare with Merrick was like 2 years ago I thought? Rory has a sensitive tummy and nothing has been better for her then Merrick. Blue Buffalo was way to rich but I guess it differs on the dog.
The BEST thing about Merrick is if you have a issue you can actually talk to someone over the phone who knows the product and when the pet food recall was going on they sent me numerous emails letting me know it was all good.

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Postby chewbecca » Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:17 pm

Uh, I know someone who sent me pics in September or October of a nice sized chunk of metal she found in her dog treats.

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Postby Savage Destiny » Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:07 pm

chewbecca wrote:Uh, I know someone who sent me pics in September or October of a nice sized chunk of metal she found in her dog treats.


I've also personally seen nails baked in Natura biscuits that people have returned to our store. Nature's Variety has been getting kibble put in wrong bags and having VAST colour variations in the kibble which is causing stomach upsets in dogs.

There's no company who hasn't had issues of some sort.

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Postby jlphilli » Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:46 am

Savage Destiny wrote:
chewbecca wrote:Uh, I know someone who sent me pics in September or October of a nice sized chunk of metal she found in her dog treats.


I've also personally seen nails baked in Natura biscuits that people have returned to our store. Nature's Variety has been getting kibble put in wrong bags and having VAST colour variations in the kibble which is causing stomach upsets in dogs.

There's no company who hasn't had issues of some sort.


Unfortunately, I'm one of "those people" who doesn't believe it 'til they see it...and I have seen the Merrick issues first hand. Do you remember when their Wingalings were recalled b/c they ALL had metal staples in it?

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Postby Savage Destiny » Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:23 am

jlphilli wrote:
Savage Destiny wrote:
chewbecca wrote:Uh, I know someone who sent me pics in September or October of a nice sized chunk of metal she found in her dog treats.


I've also personally seen nails baked in Natura biscuits that people have returned to our store. Nature's Variety has been getting kibble put in wrong bags and having VAST colour variations in the kibble which is causing stomach upsets in dogs.

There's no company who hasn't had issues of some sort.


Unfortunately, I'm one of "those people" who doesn't believe it 'til they see it...and I have seen the Merrick issues first hand. Do you remember when their Wingalings were recalled b/c they ALL had metal staples in it?


I do remember that. That was also YEARS ago.

Work in the pet food business for a while- every company has dirty little secrets. There is a very good reason that none of my animals eat kibble, and that reason is that I've seen issues with every single "good" kibble out there.

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Postby jlphilli » Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:49 pm

Savage Destiny wrote:
jlphilli wrote:
Savage Destiny wrote:
chewbecca wrote:Uh, I know someone who sent me pics in September or October of a nice sized chunk of metal she found in her dog treats.


I've also personally seen nails baked in Natura biscuits that people have returned to our store. Nature's Variety has been getting kibble put in wrong bags and having VAST colour variations in the kibble which is causing stomach upsets in dogs.

There's no company who hasn't had issues of some sort.


Unfortunately, I'm one of "those people" who doesn't believe it 'til they see it...and I have seen the Merrick issues first hand. Do you remember when their Wingalings were recalled b/c they ALL had metal staples in it?


I do remember that. That was also YEARS ago.

Work in the pet food business for a while- every company has dirty little secrets. There is a very good reason that none of my animals eat kibble, and that reason is that I've seen issues with every single "good" kibble out there.


To me there's a big difference between "dirty little secrets" and public recalls/constant issues. JMO though

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Postby Savage Destiny » Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:52 pm

jlphilli wrote:
Savage Destiny wrote:
jlphilli wrote:
Savage Destiny wrote:
chewbecca wrote:Uh, I know someone who sent me pics in September or October of a nice sized chunk of metal she found in her dog treats.


I've also personally seen nails baked in Natura biscuits that people have returned to our store. Nature's Variety has been getting kibble put in wrong bags and having VAST colour variations in the kibble which is causing stomach upsets in dogs.

There's no company who hasn't had issues of some sort.


Unfortunately, I'm one of "those people" who doesn't believe it 'til they see it...and I have seen the Merrick issues first hand. Do you remember when their Wingalings were recalled b/c they ALL had metal staples in it?


I do remember that. That was also YEARS ago.

Work in the pet food business for a while- every company has dirty little secrets. There is a very good reason that none of my animals eat kibble, and that reason is that I've seen issues with every single "good" kibble out there.


To me there's a big difference between "dirty little secrets" and public recalls/constant issues. JMO though


Personally, I like to see a company be open about the issues they're having rather than hide any problems going on.


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