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Postby Deniselynn » Sat Mar 22, 2008 8:33 pm

Petco also sells Natural Balance which is a good food. From what I have seen, PetCo sells a better quality of food than PetSmart.

Let us know what you decide.

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Postby msvette2u » Sat Mar 22, 2008 9:49 pm

It may have been posted, but I didn't read all the replies - I have seen first hand what Alpo can do to dogs. The soy runs right through them - they are made to digest MEAT, not soy or corn.
BTW I can list a number of foods that do that to dogs, too ;)

We keep our fosters and our own dogs on KIRKLAND which is made by Costco. It is .50 cents/lb. so $20 for a 40 lb. bag. And it's a very good food - for that kind of money you cannot go wrong :thumbsup:

If you have no Costco - go with Walmart's MAXXIMUM brand. It's decent, and better than Alpo or any Purina product.

That's, if you cannot afford Canidae, or Solid Gold or one of those. :)

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Postby SueN » Sat Mar 22, 2008 11:30 pm

I just found this on another message board. I just switched what I feed and their no longer producing it so I am looking to change as well. I don't know how valid the info below is but maybe someone on here does.

How to grade your dog's food: (Some brands are down at the very bottom]

Start with a grade of 100:

1) For every listing of "by-product", subtract 10 points

2) For every non-specific animal source ("meat" or "poultry", meat, meal or fat) reference, subtract 10 points

3) If the food contains BHA, BHT, or ethoxyquin, subtract 10 points

4) For every grain "mill run" or non-specific grain source,subtract 5 points

5) If the same grain ingredient is used 2 or more times in the first five ingredients (i.e. "ground brown rice", "brewerâ?Ts rice", "rice flour" are all the same grain), subtract 5 points

6) If the protein sources are not meat meal and there are less than 2 meats in the top 3 ingredients, subtract 3 points

7) If it contains any artificial colorants, subtract 3 points

8 ) If it contains ground corn or whole grain corn, subtract 3points

9) If corn is listed in the top 5 ingredients, subtract 2 morepoints

10) If the food contains any animal fat other than fish oil,subtract 2 points

11) If lamb is the only animal protein source (unless your dog is allergic to other protein sources), subtract 2 points

12) If it contains soy or soybeans, subtract 2 points

13) If it contains wheat (unless you know that your dog isnâ?Tt allergic to wheat), subtract 2 points

14) If it contains beef (unless you know that your dog isnâ?Tt allergic to beef), subtract 1 point

15) If it contains salt, subtract 1 point

Extra Credit:

1) If any of the meat sources are organic, add 5 points

2) If the food is endorsed by any major breed group or nutritionist, add 5 points

3) If the food is baked not extruded, add 5 points

4) If the food contains probiotics, add 3 points

5) If the food contains fruit, add 3 points

6) If the food contains vegetables (NOT corn or other grains), add 3 points

7) If the animal sources are hormone-free and antibiotic-free, add 2 points

8 ) If the food contains barley, add 2 points

9) If the food contains flax seed oil (not just the seeds), add 2 points

10) If the food contains oats or oatmeal, add 1 point

11) If the food contains sunflower oil, add 1 point

12) For every different specific animal protein source (other than

the first one; count "chicken" and "chicken meal" as only one protein source, but "chicken" and "" as 2 different sources), add 1 point

13) If it contains glucosamine and chondroitin, add 1 point

14) If the vegetables have been tested for pesticides and are pesticide-free, add 1 point

94-100+ = A

86-93 = B

78-85 = C

70-77 = D

69 = F

Here are some foods that have already been scored. If you don't see your dog's food here, ask and someone will score it for you.

Dog Food scores:

Authority Harvest Baked / Score 116 A+

Bil-Jac Select / Score 68 F

Canidae / Score 112 A+

Chicken Soup Senior / Score 115 A+

Diamond Maintenance / Score 64 F

Diamond Lamb Meal & Rice / Score 92 B

Diamond Large Breed 60+ Formula / Score 99 A

Dick Van Patten's Natural Balance Ultra Premium / Score 122 A+

Dick Van Patten's Duck and Potato / Score 106 A+

Foundations / Score 106 A+

Hund-n-Flocken Adult Dog (lamb) by Solid Gold / Score 93 D

Iams Lamb Meal & Rice Formula Premium / Score 73 D

Innova Dog / Score 114 A+

Innova Evo / Score 114 A+

Kirkland Signature Chicken, Rice, and Vegetables / Score 110 A+

Nutrisource Lamb and Rice / Score 87 B

Nutro Natural Choice Large Breed Puppy / Score 87 B

Pet Gold Adult with Lamb & Rice / Score 23 F

ProPlan Natural Turkey & Barley / Score 103 A+

Purina Benful / Score 17 F

Purina Dog / Score 62 F

Purina Come-n-Get It / Score 16 F

Royal Canin Bulldog / Score 100 A+

Royal Canin Natural Blend Adult / Score 106 A+

Sensible Choice Chicken and Rice / Score 97 A

Science Diet Advanced Protein Senior 7+ / Score 63 F

Science Diet for Large Breed Puppies / Score 69 F

Wellness Super5 Mix Chicken / Score 110 A+

Wolfking Adult Dog (bison) by Solid Gold / Score 97 A

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Postby bahamutt99 » Sun Mar 23, 2008 12:51 am

Good posts, those last few. Reddog, read the links and the info, and quit doing just what people are telling you to do. :) One so-called expert told my mom to take Jedi off of Canidae and put him on Pedigree. Thankfully, she trusts my judgement and talked to me before doing anything. The poor old white dog struggled with skin issues his whole life -- through phases of Diamond, Eukanuba, Science Diet, ProPlan -- until he got on Canidae. But self-proclaimed experts would take away his high-quality kibble and shovel him full of grocery store crap until he's right back where he started.

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Postby reddog » Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:17 am

Deniselynn wrote:Petco also sells Natural Balance which is a good food. From what I have seen, PetCo sells a better quality of food than PetSmart.

Let us know what you decide.


yeah they have a whole line of Nutra, I don't recall seeing that one but sure they did, they all about the same price. they have about a weeks worth of the alpo left. after thats gone ill get something else. hopefully it be better.

my pit doesnt eat much but the lab does. that could be a issue also, the lab eats hers then the pits food after the pit is finished, sometimes i dont catch when shes done to get her bowl up before the lab is finished with hers

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Postby bahamutt99 » Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:13 pm

Natural Balance I don't think is the same thing as Nutro.

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Postby kristakmj » Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:17 pm

i got a 20lb bag of canidae for 23.99 , not much more then you were looking to pay , if you go to walmart all of my dogs were on it and did "okay" its 20lbs for 14 bucks . but they all have much better coats and much less poop oh yah and the pet store has 40lb of canidae for $35 thats even better

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Postby Michael » Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:35 pm

reddog wrote:
Deniselynn wrote:Petco also sells Natural Balance which is a good food. From what I have seen, PetCo sells a better quality of food than PetSmart.

Let us know what you decide.


yeah they have a whole line of Nutra, I don't recall seeing that one but sure they did, they all about the same price. they have about a weeks worth of the alpo left. after thats gone ill get something else. hopefully it be better.

my pit doesnt eat much but the lab does. that could be a issue also, the lab eats hers then the pits food after the pit is finished, sometimes i dont catch when shes done to get her bowl up before the lab is finished with hers


I hear ya about the lab, I have a choc. lab that will eat anything, and he eats it so fast that he doesn't even taste it. it almost looks like he inhales his food. I had to start feeding him and my other dogs separately or he would horn in and eat theirs.

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Postby reddog » Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:48 am

what about ole roy food? my buddy says thats all he feeds his roc.

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Postby Roxers » Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:52 am

Old Roy is a really low quality food.

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Postby jlphilli » Tue Mar 25, 2008 8:36 am

reddog wrote:what about ole roy food? my buddy says thats all he feeds his roc.


Probably one of the worst food to be honest. Why not try the Maxximum by Walmart?

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Postby u-turn » Tue Mar 25, 2008 9:38 am

my dad feed his dobbies o'roy for years and they stayed in great shape..

but i think it is one of the worse.. but my dad also feed raw meat to them maybe thats what helped

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Postby reddog » Tue Mar 25, 2008 8:18 pm

jlphilli wrote:
reddog wrote:what about ole roy food? my buddy says thats all he feeds his roc.


Probably one of the worst food to be honest. Why not try the Maxximum by Walmart?


see. i ask 100 driffrent people and get 100 driffrent answers, I think they are most likly 50 good/okay foods and then you got 50 others that are the total worst, then out of those 25 of the first and 25 of the 2nd people use.
cause I have gotten so many driffrent answers, i posted and asked on craigslist.comw here i live and everyone said nutra max and or ol roy were what they feed. here I get all sorts of answers, I am so convused.

so many said wal mart foods really sucked, I got the last from sams, thought it would be good.

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Postby KadillacGrrl » Tue Mar 25, 2008 8:27 pm

Purina, Alpo, Ole Roy etc.. not good. The smartest thing you can do when buying dog foods is read the ingredients. Meat, not corn, rice, beet pulp and other fillers should be the first ingredient. MEAT, not meal or meat by product.

This is the order of ingredients for the first few on the Kirkland Chicken & Rice formula

Chicken, chicken meal, whole grain brown rice, cracked pearled barley, chicken fat


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