loose patella or Luxating Patella

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loose patella or Luxating Patella

Postby whitebully » Mon Apr 07, 2008 12:48 pm

I just got back from the vet because my girl cici has been limping the past few days. turns out she has "loose rear patella" or better known as Luxating Patella(from what ive searched on the net) - basicly an out of place knee cap.

he gave my anti-inflame meds for her, but he said my only other option is surgery. H popped her knee back in place(ouch!) and says she doesnt seem like shes in pain but more like a really bad annoyance.

i really hope the med works and i fear she is in pain :( she is such an active dog and having a problem preventing her to run around would crush her i think.

does anyone have any experience with this, or have had a dog with this condition or have any advice for me??

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Postby pjrocco » Mon Apr 07, 2008 1:04 pm

My female has a grade 2 in her left read and a grade 3 in her right rear. My recommendation would be to get a second opinion. My last vet gave her a grade 3 and 4 and told us we needed surgery ASAP or she wouldn't be able to even walk a year or two down the road. After seeing another vet (our current) he told us that she should get surgery, but if we didn't that the worst case would be early arthritis. We are just limited her activities...

My female doesn't really limp though and she doesn't show pain, but most bullies don't. She'll get an x-ray every year now to check progress. If it gets worse then we'll have to get surgery, if it stays constant, then we will just keep limiting her.

What grade is she? From what the vet told me, as long as it is not a grade 3 or 4 then the dogs does not require surgery; it is recommend, but not required. Also, the surgery was quoted at about $1,500 for both knees with a 6 weeks recovery time.

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Postby Sarah » Mon Apr 07, 2008 1:04 pm

Well, that's no fun. :( My dogs don't have luxating patellas, but I've known of dogs that did. The surgery seems to be effective, but I don't think it's cheap. Did he tell you what degree it was?

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Postby Allie » Mon Apr 07, 2008 1:13 pm

My girl Sidney has luxating patellas in both of her back legs. We got a few opinions and opted not to have surgery at this time. She gets around well.
The biggest thing the surgeon told us is to make sure to keep her weight down ALL THE TIME. Glucosamine/chondroitin supplements.

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Postby Allie » Mon Apr 07, 2008 1:14 pm

Oh, forgot to mention-- do a forum search. I know there are a couple of threads on this topic from the time Sid was being evaluated. Annika's Piper had surgery... anyway... do a search. :thumbsup:

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Postby lipshipsattitude » Mon Apr 07, 2008 2:13 pm

Out of curiosity did any of you run your dog on hard pavement when it was under 18 months? Either that or practice any kind of weight pull even something as simple as a back pack?
I'm trying to see if their is a correlation between those activites and this health problem?
There is a guy on a another forum who rides a bike with his 7 month old on concrete for about 4 miles a day. I try to tell him thats not ok.

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Postby whitebully » Mon Apr 07, 2008 2:33 pm

My vet did not xray her or tell me the "grade" he told me to keep her on etogestic 300mb anti-flam meds to monitor her activity (no rough running or jumping for 1 to 2 weeks) - then check and see how she is, and come back for a checkup...

is this something that she will suffer with for the rest of her life if not corrected?? i dont want my dog to not be able to run and play with others

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Postby whitebully » Mon Apr 07, 2008 2:34 pm

oh and as far as running her on hard pavement under 18 months, ive never over worked her - the most we did was go on walks everyday (which was the street sidewalk) but thats about it

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Postby lipshipsattitude » Mon Apr 07, 2008 2:52 pm

Cool, just speculating!
Anyhoo my sister's pit was from a BYB and he had knee surgery on both back legs before he was 4 years old. He used to skatebaord and would slow down by dragging one back leg on the ground so his was pretty bad. He is now 8 years old, runs with the best of them but tires much faster. He is arthritic and grumbly on cold days and needs help jumping in the back of the truck. BUT he still swims and we find running in sand is softer and easier for him.
The kids now to give him his space when eh lays down because he does get cranky but his life isnt severly handicapped and he's doing good!

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Postby pjrocco » Mon Apr 07, 2008 3:12 pm

whitebully wrote:My vet did not xray her or tell me the "grade" he told me to keep her on etogestic 300mb anti-flam meds to monitor her activity (no rough running or jumping for 1 to 2 weeks) - then check and see how she is, and come back for a checkup...

is this something that she will suffer with for the rest of her life if not corrected?? i dont want my dog to not be able to run and play with others


Yes, this is something she will deal with for the rest of her life. Luxating Patellas do not go away on their own. For the problem to go away the knee cap needs to be manually reattached, it does not heal.

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Postby Sarah » Mon Apr 07, 2008 3:37 pm

You might look for an orthopedic specialist to tell you how severe it is and whether surgery is recommended. The OFA site has some good info on patella luxation: OFA patella page

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Postby Lanolar » Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:07 pm

I just wanted to add along with the advice here, is to make sure you keep her weight down. Keep her on the skinny side to help reduce the work on her knee's. Our little girl Pit has the same issue and we are monitoring it. We are lucky simply because she is so tiny (30pounds), that the issue is not compounded from her size.

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Postby FBODGRL » Mon Apr 07, 2008 10:01 pm

I have a couple of threads about this too. Khan was just diagnosed with a luxating patella in his left leg. My vet also said surgery was the only option. I am in the process of getting a second opinion although I don't think it will be different. His knee pops out basically at least once a day. I have been watching how he runs and walks and he carries that leg noticeably different.

Due to the risk of arthritis building up I plan to have the surgery rather soon. Most likely in the next few months, although my vet said I could wait through the summer. From what I have read after surgery and healing they can run and play normally. My fear would be that if the surgery wasn't done as he aged he would have severe arthritis in that leg.

He is on osteo biflex twice a day also.

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Postby Murfins » Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:13 pm

My Ellie is actually going in for surgery tomorrow - she has a grade 3 luxating patella in her left knee. My vet feels strongly that if surgery is not done now, she will eventually become totally lame and the longer you wait the more evasive the surgery becomes (grinding out ridges, etc.).

Btw, Ellie is about 7yo and is a Chihuahua that we recently adopted.

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Postby whitebully » Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:35 am

FBODGIRL: my girls knee usually pops about once or twice too. does it usually go back into place itself? when i was at the vet he put it in place for her, but reccomended i do not mess with her leg by myself.

but how does her knee snap back into place on its own? i thought once a joint was off, it had to be forced back in?


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