After reading most pages of this thread i have witnessed different levels of opinion regarding cesar milan.
People like me, initially, came on with little education and blindly defended him. People with education, who saw the situation for what is was, grey. They listed the pros and cons. I also saw people, with education, who seemed to be as blind as myself trying to defend their preconceieved and emotional opinion, with the same level of class and professionalism as one who just blindly loves him. I have seen a lot of this, which makes the educated ones with common sense and a logical approach, loook bad.
I have read the point that, it is a tv show, it is molded to entertain, taken out of context, stuff like that. I have also seen, people who have stated that, bring up a special on the news to back their opposing claim. hmm. I dont think either would hold up in a court of law. What is sad, is red, you claim to have a formal education, and use the same simple minded logic as those with out, maybe consider taking a logic class to supplement your dog trainign. You may be surprised at how differently you start to look at the world.
"Honestly, to call these people not helpful is ridiculous. I've personally talked to Red on the phone and she helped me immensely"
I know a black man who gunned down a little old lady for 10 dollars, is it safe for me to make the general claim, black people are ignorant murders? Buddy, your logic ridiculous.
Fenriswolf, i have seen maany people not break their reponses into paragraphs, leaving the reader with a lot of squinting. You chose to speak to me, and not them, so i will take it as a personal attack. If it physically hurts, may i reccomend, adjusting the settings on your computer to assit your needs.
"Wait a minute there. What makes you think us "monkeys" do not help anyone here and in real life?"
A. I didnt say that you dont help Anyone. I said most, which doesnt make the claim right, iwas pissed off at the time.
B. My point was, rather than politley put our heads together, keeping our innitial motive at heart, pit bulls and their well being, there is a lot of energy spent fightinig over opinions on how to do that. The key word is fighting, myself included, it seems getting our opinions out, makes some loose site of why they are here in the first place.
My earliere posts, revealed my ignorance when it comes to modern dog training, and what did the professionals do, bashed me and my claims, rather than inform me that there are other methods available with proven success.
Maybe, i expect more from " a professional" than i do from a guy with a couple dogs and a television set.
I love dogs and especially pit bulls as i am sure most people here do. I have been on many forums, and i have never seen so many people with so little class and maturity, i am only 24 and i have a chip on my shoulder, and i hate what society has done to our beloved breed, i too have lost site of thta for a while, and apologize for my earlier posts.