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Counter-Surfing

Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 6:36 pm
by MissKitty
Apollo went away for the weekend and was doggie sat by my friend.
He came home worn out, happy and in perfect condition. But he came home with something else, a bad habit. Counter Surfing. He must have discovered it via doggy example lol

I have never really dealt with a counter surfing dog before and am used to leaving the cat food and food in general sitting on the counters.
I have been trying to train myself all day not to leave stuff up there, but how can I train Apollo that counter surfing is not ok?

Re: Counter-Surfing

Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 6:45 pm
by GoingPostal
Ugh, Nero came here with that lovely habit, that and garbage digging, both of which he taught to Jersey. He'll still go over and try to stick his nose in the garbage with us right there, it's like it's so ingrained in him but we leave something heavy on it if there's anything in it so he hasn't been rewarded for it in forever. The counter surfing seems to have almost gone away, basically we just really managed the dogs access and called them away if they headed there without us, whether there was food up there or not and keep everything up pretty well. Although we can leave food on the back of the stove and they don't even try that. Jersey is actually still worse about trying to get up there. We tried some deterrents, Tabasco, pepper flakes kind of stuff which didn't really seem to make a difference. Seemed to be just keeping an eye on them and making sure to distract/correct if they even thought about it. I think he just forgot about it.

Re: Counter-Surfing

Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 7:15 pm
by Amie
Lib will surf if I walk out of the room for two seconds. I'm considering putting bubble wrap on the counter, but I suppose that won't help Apollo, will it!

Re: Counter-Surfing

Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 8:07 pm
by Celesteandthebullies
Dakota doesn't even need to get up on his back legs to surf some counters. Generally I just say "eh eh" and he's fine after that.

Re: Counter-Surfing

Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 9:56 pm
by AllisonPitbullLvr
Like Obi with his garbage-obsession, self-rewarding behaviours are so hard to reverse! Even though you can catch them and give a verbal correction, your dog is STILL getting rewarded for his behaiour every time he successfully counter-surfs when you're not around.

In my experience, this is a problem that's much easier to manage than to reverse. While we haven't figured out how to keep Obi out of the garbage at our new house, in our previous apartment we used child-proof locks to keep him out. Unfortunately, they aren't working with our new kitchen cupboards so we have started to remove the garbage completely from the house before bed every night.

We also have the neatest counters of anyone I know. NOTHING gets left on there at night. Period.

Re: Counter-Surfing

Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 10:05 pm
by pitmixpeople
We also have the neatest counters of anyone I know. NOTHING gets left on there at night. Period.


That is quite the challenge! Somehow, at our house there is always a cereal bowl, odd pan or something left out.

Re: Counter-Surfing

Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 10:06 pm
by AllisonPitbullLvr
pitmixpeople wrote:
We also have the neatest counters of anyone I know. NOTHING gets left on there at night. Period.


That is quite the challenge! Somehow, at our house there is always a cereal bowl, odd pan or something left out.


lol Granted, there ARE only two humans living here. (The furries outnumber us and I'm convinced they'll mutiny any day now).

I can definitely see how this would be a more difficult task in your average house. Touche!

Re: Counter-Surfing

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:29 pm
by HappyPuppy
At least for the trash can, I was advised by an experienced breed owner to set out mouse traps. I haven't had to use them, tho, so I can't vouch... I would be livid over counter surfing! :twisted: I even hate to see cats on kitchen counters...

Re: Counter-Surfing

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:19 am
by momtosadie
We used mouse traps to keep our gsd off the couch and it worked, we came home and found the traps sprung and he wouldn't even so much as look at the couch. But counter surfing is a hard thing to break, especially if they are tall enough to look over the edge, what a temptation. I've always let my dogs in the kitchen when I'm cooking, if Sadie wants to be real close to the action she has to sit or lay on the rug in front of the sink. I don't let their noses get even close to the counter - always a stern NO and sit back down. She is too little and can't see the food on the counter or get up on it, but I also never feed her treats when I'm cooking, if I want to give her something, I put it in her dish. Our last three dogs were very good at never getting anything off the counter, but to be on the safe side, I don't press my luck either and try to keep anything tempting out of their reach. Good luck

Re: Counter-Surfing

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 8:25 pm
by tiva
Just put stuff away. You can try all the mousetrap/stick tape/electric shock pad ideas in the world, but a clever dog will spend her day figuring out how to get around them. It's a lot easier to keep food in the cabinets. Unless, of course, you want to give your dog interesting intellectual exercises to help her pass those long boring hours when you're at work.

Re: Counter-Surfing

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:35 pm
by afrikaPB
I even hate to see cats on kitchen counters...


x2 Litter box to counter... uhhh yuck

Re: Counter-Surfing

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 1:10 am
by MissKitty
So far so good!
I have been keeping all food off the counters and been practicing the method from the 'Kikopups' video-


Re: Counter-Surfing

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:45 pm
by cinder06
AllisonPibbleLvr wrote:Like Obi with his garbage-obsession, self-rewarding behaviours are so hard to reverse! Even though you can catch them and give a verbal correction, your dog is STILL getting rewarded for his behaiour every time he successfully counter-surfs when you're not around.

In my experience, this is a problem that's much easier to manage than to reverse. While we haven't figured out how to keep Obi out of the garbage at our new house, in our previous apartment we used child-proof locks to keep him out. Unfortunately, they aren't working with our new kitchen cupboards so we have started to remove the garbage completely from the house before bed every night.

We also have the neatest counters of anyone I know. NOTHING gets left on there at night. Period.


Totally agree on managing this habit. Mine are like that as well, the garbage can is in the garage lol that is right outside the kitchen door. We've had so many 'accidents' and so tired of picking up chewed up dirty diapers! yuck!...We just keep garbage outside.

Same with the counter, the only thing is my laundry when I'm being lazy and don't want to put them away yet. :)

It is rather funny though the look on their face when you do catch them lol!