OK, this is what I mean about prong collars...

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OK, this is what I mean about prong collars...

Postby Diane Jessup » Wed Aug 17, 2005 8:53 pm

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Laura Maloney just sent me this pic from an ADBA show. (She wrote a VERY nice letter about the experience for the press) Anywho, this poor dog shows the oversized (too large a link) and WAY too low placement of an ill-placed prong. Matter of fact, dogs can pull against this low of a placed collar with relative ease... This leads people to think their dogs are really tough...

[Shaking head] Poor dog. You can see his poor "blue dog" skin is red and irritated by the collar, not to mention all that crap he has on... Imagine how hot he is, in Louisiana?

Eeeshh, I'm not in a good mood...

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Postby JCleve86 » Wed Aug 17, 2005 9:03 pm

That dog looks ridiculous. Poor thing....when we people realize that your dogs can't be cool for you?!?!?!

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Postby Naplis Slim » Wed Aug 17, 2005 9:14 pm

<img src='http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_19_4.gif' border=0> that looks so stupid.

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Postby concreterose » Wed Aug 17, 2005 9:34 pm

How ridiculous. Poor dog.

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Postby ShadowWolf » Wed Aug 17, 2005 10:35 pm

....that...is....horrid. :yucky:

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Postby SFBullyGirl » Wed Aug 17, 2005 10:36 pm

dear lord :wallbang:

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Postby Jp » Thu Aug 18, 2005 12:16 am

:po: that is so sad. :sad:

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Postby Diane Jessup » Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:06 am

I'm not sure if she thought it was stupid or cool... I know what I thought. She is making an effort to calm down all the wildass pit bull people that have been threatening to blow her up and whatnot... Glad she seemed to go to a very good example of an ADBA show (stupid oversized blue dog with idiot outfit aside).

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Postby Rumpley » Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:16 am

I don't go to ADBA shows. But seriously for the folks that do, how can anyone participate in events that have dogs with this kind of paraphenalia on, let alone the "logging chain" crowd that show up on occasion???

What standards are there to these ADBA events if you can show up with your dog wearing stuff like this???PLLLEEAAZZEE..give me a break :roll:

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Postby Diane Jessup » Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:28 am

I'm no fan of ADBA, but I will say that it is a little tough to control who comes to an open event. I went to an IWPA weight pull event in Yakima where all kinds of complete idiots showed up with their logging chain leashes, and such, and other than the judge telling them to get the hell back from the pull shoot, there wasn't a lot you could do. And, when we knew the press was coming, you could imagine how happy we were!

Sometimes I just sigh and talk to the folks, and try and see if maybe a little sense might seep through. We were all young and foolish once.

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Postby Red » Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:51 am

What standards are there to these ADBA events if you can show up with your dog wearing stuff like this???


As I mentioned before, not only the dogs wear ridicolus equipment but the owners are proud to show off their pro fighting shirts.I have only been to ADBA shows in South CA so my experience is limited but I read of folks who witness things like this in other states.
The attitude, words and behaviors that I have seen were worth some major rear kicking.The sad things is that the judges did not find this to be a problem.I listened to some conversation that were way out of line, you wonder how you can send AC to their homes.The lack of respect for their own dogs was also in your face.Being there gave me the creeps, I thought I would see some nice dogs working but all I saw were idiots yelling and treating their dogs like crap. Next time I witness this, like someone suggested here, I will be sending an e-mail or call the club or ADBA and let them know about the negative imagine some of them are promoting.
Same goes for any other registry involved.
When I tested Tigger with the ATTS, one of the person in charge asked to who had pit bulls to call them amstaffs in case anyone asked, because the saturday before there was a pulling show and folks behaved so badly that the cops were called.Not sure who hosted the event but how nice is that?Many thanks to those morons.

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Postby Big_Ant » Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:53 am

Diane Jessup wrote:I'm no fan of ADBA, but I will say that it is a little tough to control who comes to an open event. I went to an IWPA weight pull event in Yakima where all kinds of complete idiots showed up with their logging chain leashes, and such, and other than the judge telling them to get the hell back from the pull shoot, there wasn't a lot you could do. And, when we knew the press was coming, you could imagine how happy we were!

Sometimes I just sigh and talk to the folks, and try and see if maybe a little sense might seep through. We were all young and foolish once.


I've been considering going to the Expo at the Pomona Fairplex next weekend, however, if you look at their site, the winner of the Conformation show from last year is an oversized beast, similar to the one you have above in that it has a hard leather plate harness.

I know Weda wouldn't act up, but I'm wondering if it's just going to be a huge mutt fest.

And I'm sure some media is going to show up.

- Anthony

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Postby Rumpley » Thu Aug 18, 2005 2:04 am

Curious to know if the ADBA takes ANY responsiblity in the image they condone?

Media love pit events and we all work our darndest to make sure it stays a positive image. I have many new adopters tell me they go to ADBA shows and are horrified. Isn't that just shooting the breed in the foot some more?

What is so hard about putting in some rules saying "participants and attendees must have appropriate (and define this) hardware on their dogs", otherwise they'll be asked to leave ?????? You could NOT show up at any self respecting dog show or dog sport event of any kind, with a logging chain around your dogs neck, and not be promptly escorted off the site.

I agree D, you can't control the crowd that comes to watch. But in any show, putting up dogs in paraphenalia like that is unacceptable to me. Putting up dogs that are under little to no control of the owners is the same. A colleague of mine's dog was beat out (and this isn't sour grapes here) by a dog that was lashing out and lunging to eat everything in it's path and the owner just left it out there, at the end of the leash to do so in the ring, and the judge placed it?

Maybe I'm nieve since my only experience is in the CKC, but so far, there is nothing about the ADBA that I've seen, heard or read about that would make me want to participate in it whatsoever.

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Postby Red » Thu Aug 18, 2005 2:50 am

What is so hard about putting in some rules saying "participants and attendees must have appropriate (and define this) hardware on their dogs", otherwise they'll be asked to leave ??????


Maybe it is just as hard as stop registering litters of overdone mutts and allow a bunch if BYBs to affiliate with this registry?
Money and numbers.If they truly care about the breed, there would be much more done than asking folks to have some manners and decency at a dog show.

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Postby satanscheerleader » Thu Aug 18, 2005 5:33 am

I haven't been to an ADBA show here in awhile but I do know you are not allowed to have a choker on your dog. They have to be shown on a flat buckle collar and a 4 foot leash. If it was like anything like when I went years ago they would laugh a big mutant beast out of there. They thought Venus was huge. :dunno:


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