slickvic wrote:well i can sense a decent amoutn of hostility in both retorts to my comments...
Well, that is par for the course when you belittle other training/management techniques, and tout YOUR way as superior. Which came across loud and clear in your post.
slickvic wrote:i am sory, i did not expect that you rehabilitate dogs, when somebody is talking about a head collar, to me it is safe to asume, that there is a reason one uses it opposed to a flat collar, why would anyone not in your situation use a restraining type of collar if it is not at all needed. so it is a safe assumption just in this case i was not given all of the information.
This is the downfall of assuming. Had you asked questions about WHY people use the equipment that they do instead of implying that people don't have control or good relationships with their dogs, I doubt you would've received the responses that you did.
slickvic wrote:IF you want to minimize my comment, by saying , snap a lesh is training, go a head, but what i said is accurate, effecient, and has worked for me so i though ti would pass it on, i am sorry i dont know any of the other methods, if i did i wuold share them...
Well then perhaps it would help YOU out to open your mind to new methods. No two dogs learn the same, or respond the same to a particular training method, and the goal of this forum is to be a catalyst to expose owners to different types of training, as long as it is not harmful to the dog.
For example, my male responded well to the head collar, but cannot use it because of how his muzzle is shaped. He does respond to a prong collar and has been making good progress in his class with this piece of equipment. Red is not a proponent of prong collars, but knows a lot about how I train my dogs, so was open that this equipment works for HIM. She could have just as easily told me that my relationship with my dog sucks and I'm a rotten trainer because I am using something that she doesn't, but she was open-minded enough to take into consideration the training methods that I use coupled with the prong collar will help my dog and I get to where we need to.
When you come on a thread and post about how people are not doing something right because they aren't doing it the way YOU do, expect not to be accepted with open arms.
slickvic wrote:Brilliant sara, so sad that you spend your precious time posting comments like this, what have you brought to the table, with out searching the fourm, i can safley assume, not much, next time if you want to refutet something you dont agree with, instead of a weak witty comment like that try explaining an alternative.
People give plenty of alternatives on this board. YOU however, gave an ultimatum. You implied that the ONLY way to be a successful trainer is to have your dog on a flat collar, and jerk the collar if the dog doesn't do what you want. There a TON of alternatives to this training technique.