How much beer?

jamobi · Postby **jamobi** » Thu May 27, 2004 2:35 pm

How much beer is too much for my boys. One's 75lbs and the other is 50lbs. i usually don't give them anymore than a splash or two but i was just wondering how much is too much? i drink a Sam Adams lager. i don't know if that makes a difference but i'm assuming too much alcohol will be dangerous right? If i'm kicking back then i would like to have them kick back with me too, but i just don't want to give them too much.

jmann4 · Postby **jmann4** » Thu May 27, 2004 2:50 pm

Well, this is a question I've never seen before.

Personally, I wouldn't give them more than half a beer.

I'm not sure the effects beer would have on a dog. But I wouldn't give it to them to often because you may end up with an alcholic dog. lol

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

cisom · Postby **cisom** » Thu May 27, 2004 3:29 pm

I've had dogs that like beer and dogs that hate it. Personally I wouldn't give a dog beer at all, but last weekend I left a bottle of Heineken on the table outside and Liesel jumped against the table and knocked it over. By the time I got back she had lapped up the whole bottle off the deck. Later that night she had the worst yeasty farts in the world. :oops:

On a side note, when I was in college Anheuser-Busch sponsored a big tailgate party during football season and they walked around to all the bars with a Clydesdale. This horse would drink a 5 gallon pickle barrel full of beer at a time. Of course it was Bud. I'm pretty sure he went to at least 5 taverns. It didn't appear to phase him at all, he probably weighed 2500 lbs.

tuesdaysmom · Postby **tuesdaysmom** » Thu May 27, 2004 3:32 pm

This horse would drink a 5 gallon pickle barrel full of beer at a time. Of course it was Bud. I'm pretty sure he went to at least 5 taverns. It didn't appear to phase him at all, he probably weighed 2500 lbs.
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texaspittie · Postby **texaspittie** » Thu May 27, 2004 3:38 pm

Alright, I DID say I would not post again but I did go back to lurking. I see this post & all I can do is say WTF??? Do you not realize the damage alcohol does to the HUMAN kidney? Why would you subject your DOG to that? You have the knowledge to chose NOT to drink, he doesn't. :naughty: :spankme:

raebo · Postby **raebo** » Thu May 27, 2004 3:42 pm

I don't know if any of you have ever heard of the children's book, "Walter the Farting Dog". Well the dog in that book was based on a bull mastiff (named Walter) that my partner's Uncle Paul owned years ago. Walter loved to drink beer and we even have a newspaper article about him with a picture of him drinking beer out of a stein. Maybe that contributed to his bad farts but I don't think it did him any other harm.

Rae

hyperbole · Postby **hyperbole** » Thu May 27, 2004 3:43 pm

texaspittie wrote:Alright, I DID say I would not post again but I did go back to lurking. I see this post & all I can do is say WTF??? Do you not realize the damage alcohol does to the HUMAN kidney? Why would you subject your DOG to that? You have the knowledge to chose NOT to drink, he doesn't. :naughty:

Educate yourself before you talk trash.

Alcohol doesn't harm the kidneys, since the liver is what's processing the alcohol. I suffer from Bi-lateral Poly Cystic Kidney Disease, and I drink like a fish. I've had three seperate PhDs tell me that this was OK, and two of them are renal specialists, the third being my GP.

Smoking, on the other hand, is hard on kidneys because it restricts blood flow and increases blood pressure. Betcha didn't know that.

Danie · Postby **Danie** » Thu May 27, 2004 3:43 pm

YIKES... I would NEVER give my dog beer... its dangerous as it is to humans (even though I do drink myself)

My dog doesn't know what the dangers are and its up to ME to protect her from that...

texaspittie · Postby **texaspittie** » Thu May 27, 2004 3:45 pm

Excuse the f out of me!! I made a mistake & said kidney instead of liver. And who was talking trash???

JaquelineC · Postby **JaquelineC** » Thu May 27, 2004 3:48 pm

On a side note, when I was in college Anheuser-Busch sponsored a big tailgate party during football season and they walked around to all the bars with a Clydesdale. This horse would drink a 5 gallon pickle barrel full of beer at a time. Of course it was Bud. I'm pretty sure he went to at least 5 taverns. It didn't appear to phase him at all, he probably weighed 2500 lbs.

That's f*cked up right there. I've had 5 horses, one was a LARGE TB ex racehorse, almost 17 hands for those who know. I wouldn't let my horse drink ONE bucket of beer, let alone multiple ones!

I doubt I could even GET my horse to drink beer unless I withheld water until he was dehydrated - How horribly irresponsible and wrong for a company to allow their live 'mascot' to be handled like that.

On the dogs + beer thing - I don't think there's any reason to give your dog beer. But I doubt a very small amount will do serious damage.

It's not natural or enjoyable for animals to become intoxicated. The first time your dog actually gets 'drunk' will probably be a terrifying experience for him/her.

I like a good beer an a spliff as much as the next gal, but I spare my dogs. Seriously... Why waste the beer?
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deltron · Postby **deltron** » Thu May 27, 2004 3:48 pm

I probably wouldn't give them any. I'm not sure the carbonation is good for a dog anyway. If you have to question if it's harming them, then its probably not good.

texaspittie · Postby **texaspittie** » Thu May 27, 2004 3:55 pm

Now who needs to be educated???

Kidney Function

The kidneys are bean-shaped organs that act as sophisticated filters to remove organic waste products from the blood and then excrete these waste products, along with excess salt and water, from the body through the urine. We are normally born with two kidneys located on either side of the lower back just below the rib cage. The kidneys are such incredibly well-functioning organs that only one normal, healthy kidney is required for good health. Each kidney is 4-5 inches long, weighs about 6 ounces, and contains about 1 million nephrons. Nephrons are the working units of the kidney that are responsible for waste removal (NIDDK 1998). As part of our normal aging process, kidney function diminishes as the number of functional nephrons is reduced.

The kidneys play a role in controlling the acid-base balance in the body as well as helping to control blood pressure. Another function of the kidneys is to produce hormones such as erythropoietin, which regulates the production and release of red blood cells from the bone marrow.

Each day, the kidneys filter approximately 200 quarts of blood, producing about 2 quarts of waste products and water (NIDDK 1998). These waste products and excess water pass from the kidneys through the ureters (tubes that connect the kidneys to the bladder) and into the bladder where they are briefly stored before being eliminated as liquid waste via the urine. Filtered waste products include the normal organic material from the breakdown of cells, proteins, excess food by-products, and various minerals, as well as the individual waste excretions from cells of the body. Alcohol, drugs, excess protein, minerals, and ingested toxins are also filtered by the kidneys. These toxic agents can have a dramatic, destructive effect on the health and function of the kidneys.

The rate of blood flow through the kidneys is about 20% of the total blood pumped by the heart each minute. (Anatomical Chart Company 2002®, Lippincott Williams & Wilkins)

Kidney function is often measured by using routine blood and urine tests to indicate gross problems. These tests measure creatine levels, possible blood in the urine, blood urea nitrogen (BUN), proteinuria (protein in the urine), and mineral content, including calcium, magnesium, phosphorus, sodium, potassium, oxalic acid, and other elements. If blood or urine tests indicate improper kidney function, additional testing is indicated using conventional x-rays, needle biopsy, ultrasound, a computed tomography scan (CT scan), or magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) (NORD 2002

Taken from THIS study.
http://www.lef.org/protocols/prtcl-065.shtml

cisom · Postby **cisom** » Thu May 27, 2004 3:58 pm

raebo wrote:I don't know if any of you have ever heard of the children's book, "Walter the Farting Dog". Well the dog in that book was based on a bull mastiff (named Walter) that my partner's Uncle Paul owned years ago. Walter loved to drink beer and we even have a newspaper article about him with a picture of him drinking beer out of a stein. Maybe that contributed to his bad farts but I don't think it did him any other harm.

Rae

I bought that book for my daughter after we got Liesel because she stunk up the house for awhile. It's funny.

hyperbole · Postby **hyperbole** » Thu May 27, 2004 4:04 pm

texaspittie wrote:Excuse the f out of me!! I made a mistake & said kidney instead of liver. And who was talking trash???

Might have been the emoticon of the guy getting spanked that threw me. lol

As for your study, I just go by what my doctor's have told me. When the first one said, "You can drink," I didn't believe him so I went to another specialist for a second opinion. The second specialist said the same thing, "Drinking won't harm your kidneys."

In retrospect I suppose that statement could have been directed at me personally, rather than the proverbial "you." I guess I just assumed otherwise.

*shrugs* Whatever. I like drinkin' and so does my alcoholic dog.

jmann4 · Postby **jmann4** » Thu May 27, 2004 4:18 pm

To much of ANYTHING is a bad thing.

Keep this in prespective. It's not like Jam is going to give the dogs a case of beer a day.

Doctors also say a beer a day helps flush out your kidneys. Or is it the liver?

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