B.A.R.F. 101

[bea4mr]

I was reading nd I just thought the dog would get sick eating it like that. Nd the dog never chokes on the chicken bones?? Nd I feed my dog primal frozen foods? idk if there's a thread on it or what you guys think of it but my dog loves it. Its raw food just frozen tho. My aunt got me into it nd she said if you add brown rice nd yogurt to it, its better for them. Is this trueee?

[kaytenmags]

I was reading nd I just thought the dog would get sick eating it like that. Nd the dog never chokes on the chicken bones??

No, my dog is always supervised while she's eating and she has never choked while eating bone-in chicken. She used to choke on kibble, and she will choke on anything she can swallow in one gulp without chewing.

[Kahlie]

I have a question to the raw gurus...

This has been bugging me for some time... I was recently argued against the general prey-model diet, by someone who dispenses raw diet advice for a living...
It was suggested that dogs require far greater bone-to-meat ratio than cats. Being that dogs are not carnivores, but omnivores. That, additionally, it was to maintain the right phosphorus/calcium ratio.

Has anyone ever heard of that line of logic? More bone than meat? How's that nutritious?

[kaytenmags]

More bone than meat? How's that nutritious?

IMO, it's not.

[El_EmDubya]

Has anyone ever heard of that line of logic? More bone than meat? How's that nutritious?

NEVER heard of it. I'm guessing this was a misunderstanding of a specific condition and a solution ??? Or this person is talking volume vs weight, where the ratio might differ from traditional 80/10/10 Meat/Bone/Organ.

LMW

[mommy2kane]

Has anyone ever heard of that line of logic? More bone than meat? How's that nutritious?

Could you possibly have misunderstood? Honest question. I'm on a raw group that discusses cats and dogs. I remember reading that cats don't need as MUCH bone as dogs. So maybe they were trying to say that dogs need more bone -- not more bone than meat, just more bone than a cat would require?

[Kahlie]

Has anyone ever heard of that line of logic? More bone than meat? How's that nutritious?

Could you possibly have misunderstood? Honest question. I'm on a raw group that discusses cats and dogs. I remember reading that cats don't need as MUCH bone as dogs. So maybe they were trying to say that dogs need more bone -- not more bone than meat, just more bone than a cat would require?

Fair question, but no. I don't want to go too deep into who/where this is, in case they come on here, and I don't want to seem as though I'm doing what I am in fact doing (talking behind her back), but that said, this has been bugging me.

It's been outright asserted that dogs require more bone than meat in their diet. Period. I wager that the instruction of more bone than cats, was lost in translation to the person who I was discussing with. And then just ... continued further.

We argued the point of how, "in the wild", no carnivore (or opportunistic omnivore) would eat a frame of an animal on a regular basis. Though she said if a pack took down an animal, they would. (?)

My primary problem is that this isn't a private conversation between people. It's actually at a place that makes, and sells raw food.

[pitbullgirlbc]

OK I need some major help. My dog was on RAW for the longest time but the brand we fed apparently changed the formula and made him sick and all itchy so we switched back to kibble. However I noticed he doesn't do as well on kibble as he did on RAW so I would like to switch him again. However he will not eat it and I am at a loss as to what to do. I am trying to do the pre-made stuff in patties which he used to love since it is convenient for me to do since I have school etc but he won't touch it.

Are there any alternatives? For those who do BARF type thing do you grind it up or just cut it up how is it done? How do I go about switching him back to RAW so that he will eat it.

I am at a loss

[FBODGRL]

I have done a LOT of reading and I am having so big issues right now that I may post about today, so I may not be the best source of advice....that said. What I have read is that you can try quickly searing the meat on both sides to entice them to want to eat. Obviously don't cook a lot and no microwave.

[kaytenmags]

or sprinkle parmesan cheese on it

[pitbullgirlbc]

Day 2..he now tries to roll in it...my dog is truly special

[Midnight Sun APBT]

OMG you should have seen the look my girl gave me when I started her... hahaha...

She actually picked up a chicken liver, and GACKED it out of her mouth and gave me the most HORRIFIED disgusted face EVER! I about died

For those people first starting, we found the best way was just to by whole chickens and portion them out, a 5lb chicken feeds my girl for 4 days, so I literally quarter it, and she just gets a quarter a day. 3 Days a week she gets organ meat with her chicken, liver, gizards, kidney, heart, and lung when I can find it *I just do a coarse chop of all this and freeze it in large ice cubes, she gets 3 or 4 cubes on organ nights. 3 nights a week *alternate nights of organ meat* she gets ground beef, or pork with green tripe and a whole egg added to her chicken. And on Sundays she gets a Big RMB usually beef, sometimes a lamb leg, or Pork necks if I can't find something bigger.

We use fresh fruit as treats, she's especially fond of banana chips actually... lmao and dried carrot sticks.... wierdo dog!

But she looks AMAZING now, 100% different than on kibble! Won't ever go back. I think I worked it out I was paying $45 a month for TOTW for her, and on Raw I'm paying about $38 a month give or take what the chicken is on sale for.

[pitbullgirlbc]

The only problem with that is my boy is allergic to chicken not sure about turkey though

[FBODGRL]

The only problem with that is my boy is allergic to chicken not sure about turkey though

Is he allergic to chicken kibble or raw chicken. Generally speaking if they are allergic to the kibble form they more than likely will not be allergic to the raw. Something about what the cooking process does to change the protein

Khan is allergic to chicken as well. I have been using a lot of turkey. I bought some chicken, but we haven't tried it yet. Once I can get his poop issues worked out we will be trying it and hopefully he will be fine with it. You can get chicken much cheaper than turkey usually.

[KittyNyanNyan]

Try freezing it? Maybelle refused to touch her meat until I froze it, which consequently taught her how to chew.