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Re: Halp ! And Hey Ho !

Postby Curly_07 » Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:14 pm

Welcome! :welcome: You have many questions, and I'm sure we can help you out. You will need to tell us a lil bit about yourself first(hobbies, any pets, why do you want a pit bull) to gain access to the forum.

To try and answer some of your question...pics 1 and 2 look like standard American Staffordshire Terriers, the last pic is an standard American Pit Bull Terrier, the pics inbetween are types of American Bullies. Since you are not in the United States, I'm not sure what breeds are allowed in your country. Are you familiar with your Country/state/province/county/community laws?

The term "Pit Bull" is a blanket term for many different dog breeds, and any mixes of those breeds. If you could tell us what your goals are to do with a dog, why you want a dog, and what you do not want in a dog...we can probably help you narrow it down. This is something you may want to ask in the General Section though, after you get approved to the forum.

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Re: Halp ! And Hey Ho !

Postby Enigma » Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:17 pm

Those are not APBTS, they are American Bullies (except the first two who are probably UKC APBTs). American Bullies are rare in Europe, thank god, there's absolutely no need for this breed to become popular here. The few "breeders" who imported AmBullies to Europe are selling puppies at ridiculous prices, the dogs are not health tested and serve no purpose at all other than making money for their breeders.

Why don't you look into American Staffordshire Terriers? There are quite a few great breeders in Serbia who health test and show their dogs, you will have a much better chance at getting a healthy and stable dog if you go that route. Plus if you like the dogs similar to the first two pictured, you will like AmStaffs, they are similar, but not as overdone and unhealthy as AmBullies.

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Re: Halp ! And Hey Ho !

Postby Curly_07 » Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:20 pm

maybe this will help you. It's a thread we had a while back on the differences of the "Pit Bull" breeds, and their registries.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=114012&hilit=APBT%2FAST

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Re: Halp ! And Hey Ho !

Postby MissKitty » Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:17 pm

Nemanja wrote:Why Pitbull ? Their physical appearance is ABSOULTELY AMAZING ! Pit head looks badass,muscular/wide body,they look confidently ! and many many other reasons why i adore Pits.


What are your other reasons for wanting a Pit Bull/bully breed? All of the things you listed are purely aesthetic/visual. The appearance of a dog should be one of the last things on your list.
Are you prepared to deal with BSL (breed specific legislation)? Dog aggression? Prey drive? Go through and pay for a huge amount of training to ensure that your dog will be an ambassador for the breed?
The last thing the breed needs is someone getting a dog because they 'look badass'.

I hope you stick around, this forum is very knowledgeable and you will learn a lot!

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Re: Halp ! And Hey Ho !

Postby Keira&Phoenix » Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:38 pm

:goodpost:

Unfortunately because they look bad ass isn't really a great reason. You need to actually like the temperament and behavioral traits of the breed as well.

Maybe do some research into the breeds history, what its temperament is like, what sort of exercise and other requirements the breed has before you actually start seeking breeders, also try to get out and meet some in person.

They are a beautiful dog (inside and out) but they take a dedicated owner.

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Re: Halp ! And Hey Ho !

Postby MissKitty » Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:28 pm

Nemanja wrote:I read many articles about their history,temperament,behavior towards to other dogs/humans and so on.As you said ''They are beautiful dog (inside and out) but they take a dedicated owner'' exactly,if you treat them badly,and teach them to behave aggressively,they will.


I would say you need to research some more.
There are a huge amount of variables that lead to 'aggressive' behavior (I say aggressive with quotes because ideas on what exactly aggression is varies from person to person). It is a myth that treating a Pit Bull (or any other breed for that matter) kindly will lead to a non-aggressive dog. A lot of what creates a dog is genetics (especially bad genetics if you buy from a poor breeder who is breeding solely for looks) and you can end up with an unstable dog regardless of how you treat them.

Nemanja wrote:After some researches i found something intresting,Unofortunately Pits are forbidden in my chocolate country,because our law has nothing to do with the logic of common sense,I even thought to buy AST instead of Pit after this,but my friend offered me Dogo Argentino,''I'm still at the stage of thinking'' :bowdown:

It is cetain that i will buy one of these dogs,but still not sure which one.Pit has the least chance cuz of the law,I'm not sure about AST or AD,I prefer AD. :po:


If Pit Bulls are banned on your country (and check the laws very carefully and make sure they don't have a blanket ban on AST/APBT/ST etc.) the MOST irresponsible thing you could do would be to buy a Pit Bull.
What characteristics are you looking for in a dog? What is your living situation like? What amount of training are you willing to put into a dog?
It is very important that you are truthful to yourself on exactly what you are capable of handling because you are looking at two vastly different breeds. The Dogo Argentino and AST are very different, you should be able to say what you like/dislike about both of the breeds tendencies before you even thing about buying one.

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Re: Halp ! And Hey Ho !

Postby Amie » Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:50 pm

Great discussion guys, let's bring it down to the main forums!
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