MCT for Aber too :( - Oncologist Info??

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MCT for Aber too :( - Oncologist Info??

Postby suezq » Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:26 am

I am posting for suezq again (this is her sister Michelle - ilovethepits).

She has two chocolate lab litter mates, both male, 7 yo. George had his MCT surgery 3 weeks ago and just got his stitches out yesterday. Both tumors removed with clean margins, grade 1 and grade 2.

Her other dog, Aber, had some lumps aspirated 2 weeks ago and they were nothing but there was a small bump under his nostril - above his lip that was aspirated yesterday and that is MCT. His surgery is Monday.

Sue wanted me to thank everyone for the information on MCT, follow up and information about food/supplements, etc. for praying for George when he had his and she said last night can you just ask everyone to do what they did for George for Aber too? She has not had any time to post for herself.

Here is a picture of the big lugs from a couple summers ago:
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Any information pertaining to follow up/experiences with a veterinary oncologist would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you PBF family. You are the best. :peace:
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Re: MCT for Aber too :( - Oncologist Info??

Postby heartbullies » Fri Apr 06, 2012 9:19 am

Fingers crossed!

What handsome boys!! I had an MCT scare last year w Booker and we went to a vet oncologist and I am SO GLAD I did that. The consult alone was worth the $190 and I had 6462956147 questions and notes and supplements to ask about. Haha. I was THAT person. So she said the cancer diet was primarily for dogs with different kinds of cancer than MCT. That I should do a good antioxidant supplement, Omega 3s, and could continue with TOTW food. Explained the grading of MCTs and mitotic index, and recommended that since his lumps were along his ribcage that we do x-rays to see if there was metastasis already, which would have changed whether or not she wanted to remove these lumps or do chemo. She said since MCTs are related to histamines and get bigger after activity, and often can cause upset stomach/drooling, she had me put B on Benedryl 2x daily and also Pepcid daily, from the time of the consult until after surgery. My regular vet mentioned no such thing.


The other thing I learned: B's two bigger lumps had Mast Cells in them. My reg vet diagnosed them as MCTs. The oncologist aspirated every tiny lump she could find all over his body. Found mast cells in one of the bigger lumps. After the 2 lumps were removed and sent to the lab, the lab diagnosed them as benign epithelial cell tumors. So, there can BE mast cells in another kind of growth, even if the growth looks suspiciously like a MCT.

I have Pet Plan for him and a CareCredit card, that's the only way I was really able to pursue the specialist but if she has the means even for just a consult and to come up with some ideas for her regular vet, it IMO is totally worth it.

I hope it's just a benign Labby lump, though!!,

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Re: MCT for Aber too :( - Oncologist Info??

Postby julie64 » Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:49 pm

They are adorable! I agree on visiting the oncologist. I trusted Dr Gary(regular vet) but seeing a specialist you do get more info on what you are dealing with.

Shay was also on TOTW, they recommended raw, but Shay would have nothing to do with it. I was a freak when it came to her diet(my hubby will second this) and stuck with the cancer diet and supplements.

Good thoughts coming and keep us posted.
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Re: MCT for Aber too :( - Oncologist Info??

Postby Ilovethepits » Fri Apr 06, 2012 2:51 pm

Thanks you guys! I have passed along the info to her. She is in shock I think.
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Re: MCT for Aber too :( - Oncologist Info??

Postby Murfins » Fri Apr 06, 2012 4:11 pm

Sending lots of positive thoughts for both dogs. :hug:
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Re: MCT for Aber too :( - Oncologist Info??

Postby El_EmDubya » Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:32 pm

She needs to get her dogs on a strict raw, ketogenic diet, supplement heavily with Omega 3s, and exercise them daily for an hour in cold, cold water (50 degrees is ideal.). Obesity disables many neurological pathways, leading to cancer. If she has access to a cold water lake, I'd be taking them there to play ball. If not a large trough like this (https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/Horse-Trough-Galvanized/264199 and lots of ice will work.The cold boosts immunity, spurs weight loss, as well as helping integrate the omega 3s into the cellular structure.

(No, the vet won't know about this, unless they are on the research side of vet med or human med.)
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Re: MCT for Aber too :( - Oncologist Info??

Postby suezq » Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:13 am

El_EmDubya wrote:She needs to get her dogs on a strict raw, ketogenic diet, supplement heavily with Omega 3s, and exercise them daily for an hour in cold, cold water (50 degrees is ideal.). Obesity disables many neurological pathways, leading to cancer. If she has access to a cold water lake, I'd be taking them there to play ball. If not a large trough like this (https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/Horse-Trough-Galvanized/264199 and lots of ice will work.The cold boosts immunity, spurs weight loss, as well as helping integrate the omega 3s into the cellular structure.

(No, the vet won't know about this, unless they are on the research side of vet med or human med.)


Thank you for the information. I will pass it along to her today.
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Re: MCT for Aber too :( - Oncologist Info??

Postby suezq » Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:24 pm

Aber's tumor was a grade 2 but they got clean margins. I have passed along your info to my sister. Thank you.
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Re: MCT for Aber too :( - Oncologist Info??

Postby julie64 » Tue Apr 17, 2012 6:03 pm

Continued good thoughts for these 2 handsome boys.
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