Hey guys

[cookiexd40]

Welcome!!!

First of all pics or the dogs don't exist! Lmao I wanna see these pitties!

Secondly you seem to be an advocate of the breed and to that I say thank you!


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[AllisonPitbullLvr]

When you took that puppy from the BYBer, you rewarded her for her neglect and abuse and you helped sentence your pup's parents to a lifetime of it by telling the POS breeder that there's a market for her puppies.

[AllisonPitbullLvr]

Disagree all you want, that's what forums are for. But you won't find many people here who will pat you on the back for supporting a BYBer when countless pitbulls, puppies included, are being euthanized in shelters.

What you SHOULD have done, if the situation was so terrible, was to report them, write a letter to the editor, anything to help save ALL the dogs. Instead, you've shown her that it doesn't matter what state she keeps her dogs in because people will still buy her puppies. I'm sorry, but if you think you've done right, I have to disagree. You saved that one pup while her parents and the other breeding dogs are still stuck in misery.

[Youaremysuicide]

I have to agree with Allison. Intentionally or not you were supporting bybers. And while you saved a pup, what about the parents? What about the numerous puppies that those dogs are going to produce since she knows that people will still buy them? Bybers are the reason so many 'pit bulls' die in shelters. And their poorly bred dogs are always the ones you see in the news. If you want to rescue a dog or a puppy even, go to a shelter!

[KanersHuman]

I would wager that legitimate breeders are responsible for an equal share of dead shelter dogs. Who in their right mind would breed a single dog knowing how many there are being euthanized every day.

[AllisonPitbullLvr]

I would wager that legitimate breeders are responsible for an equal share of dead shelter dogs. Who in their right mind would breed a single dog knowing how many there are being euthanized every day.

I disagree. A truly legitimate breeder has lined up responsible homes well before a litter is even born, breeds a small number of dogs and takes back any dogs if the situation arises that the owner cannot keep the puppy.

[KanersHuman]

I'm purely speaking of supply and demand. Those responsible home owners could be saving dogs from euthanasia.

As responsible fans of the breed i would think that legitimate breeders would be even less likely to continue breeding them knowing how out of control the situation is. So its like you guys are saying that average (uneducated about the facts and scale of the problem) joe on the street is bad and part of the problem but people who know exactly whats going on (because they are breeders and educated about all aspects of the issue) are not part of the problem? I don't agree with this. It's not logical.

The following is a real world example of just how little the average person knows about whats going on. I am 37 years old. I always assumed that euthanized shelter dogs were strays that bred on the streets and became feral and dangerous. Last year Kaner ended up at my house because my cousin byb'ed him and my sister took him home at Christmas because he was cute and fuzzy. I was offered a dog at the same time and refused because i have never had a pet due to allergies. A few months later Kaner is living with me because two other people that my sister tried to give him two didn't work out. 1 guy chained him up in a yard for 3 weeks where he almost died and another was training him to fight.

Once i had Kaner, formed a bond that led to soul mate type love...i decided to start finding out about him. After hours and days and weeks of ready this article or that article it dawned on me that Kaner had 7 siblings. It was difficult to find a stable home for Kaner so i can only imagine what happened to his 7 siblings. Half will probably end up being put down another quarter will spend their lives changed to a tree or post. It's horrible. All these years when i saw puppies all i could see is cute fuzzy love. Now when i see puppies my stomach turns thinking about where most of them are headed. My sister was an idiot for taking a dog she couldn't (wouldn't) keep but at least she has ignorance as an excuse.

[Curly_07]

I would wager that legitimate breeders are responsible for an equal share of dead shelter dogs. Who in their right mind would breed a single dog knowing how many there are being euthanized every day.

I disagree. A truly legitimate breeder has lined up responsible homes well before a litter is even born, breeds a small number of dogs and takes back any dogs if the situation arises that the owner cannot keep the puppy.

Correct Allison! My view as well. Responsible breeders are also needed to keep the breed true (for any breed). I will always adopt or rescue animals, but I do understand the need for responsible breeders.

To the OP... I'm glad that you are happy with your pup, and what matters from here on out is that you do your best to ensure the best life possible for that dog. However, you do need to realize the outcome of your actions. We are a very honest, caring group of dog lovers here, and most of us put so much time in to help save animals lives, to educate people, and to be responsible owners. Some of us are just straight to the point, and sometimes come off a little harsh. But, the truth is, we have a very good reason for this. We want you and any others to realize that, yes, you may have saved that 1 dogs life, but in return for your actions you have caused the parents of said dog and all of the others to continue being mistreated, as well as there being one more dog euthenized that you could have adopted. There are plenty of Pit Bull dogs and many pure bred dogs in shelters, as well as rescues, that need homes and saving much more than that dog you "saved". We aren't trying to attack you, or run you off. We just want you to realize things, and learn from your mistakes. I too once paid for a BYB puppy, that I thought I was saving. It took me a year to see that I hadn't really helped at all. I only encouraged that BYB to put 2 more litters out that same year. It sucks when you're wrong, I know. This is why I do all that I do now...I'm trying to make up for my wrong. I don't know if I will ever feel satisfied that I've done enough to right that wrong.

[Leslie H]